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The problem is, most of the answers a person receives to a "What tablesaw should I buy" question or a "I was considering a (make/model), whaddya think?" question will be of the "I have a (model/make) and I like it" or "I had one of those once, it was junk" type of answer. What does that tell you? Well, not much really. You have no idea of the responders experience or how the saw was used, and for what, etc. </div> <div> So what do you do to really get help figuring out what saw to get?</div> <div> The answer is, in my humble opinion, to FIRST stop and think about <B>WHAT</B> you are planning on using a tablesaw for!  </div> <div> Sound silly or too simple?. Consider this:</div> <div> Tablesaws, as in all things (not just all tools) selling  today are designed and sold with a HUGE influence by people that are professional Marketers and Sales Representatives with an eye for designing a tool for a particular "niche" or market,  so that sales are maximized. </div> <div> Makes sense right?</div> <div> YOUR job, when trying to figure out which saw you want/need, is to find the saw that was designed with YOUR needs (as closely as possible) in mind! So... stop and think... <B>WHAT</B> am I going to do with my new saw?</div> <div> Ask yourself, and write down your answers to these questions.</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">WHAT you want to build?</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">What type and size/thickness of  raw materials (lumber) will you be dealing with?</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Is portability an issue? How so?... Will you be taking the saw to a jobsite?, or just rolling it around on wheels?</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">How much space do you have available?</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">How much use will the saw get?</div> <div> Once you've figured out as best you can WHAT you want to build, the type and size of the raw materials that you'll be dealing with, where you're going to do this woodworking, how much space you'll need, etc., then it's time to find the saw that <B>BEST MATCHES YOUR NEEDS</B>.</div> <div> Let's look at the following saws and types of saws.</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><U>Benchtop/Portable saws.</U></B></div> <div> These saws were designed and built for jobsite work... like finish/trim carpentry at a construction site. This means that the Primary design features are going to be</div> <div> Ruggedness</div> <div> Lightweight</div> <div> Fast setup/teardown</div> <div> Cheap price</div> <div> These saws are also marketed directly to the First Time/Impulse Buyer due to their low price. They use a Universal motor because of weight and cost, and most are direct drive which makes it possible to make the saw smaller and cheaper in price, but direct drive runs rougher and is not as long lasting as belt drive. Universal motors are the same type of motors found in todays Routers, and are designed for failrly short durations of use as opposed to cutting all day/everyday as in a cabinet shop.</div> <div> Some of the features/accessories of a benchtop saw are:<IMG SRC="18864410.jpg" border=0 width="100" height="65" ALIGN="RIGHT" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Table extensions<IMG SRC="18e64350.jpg" border=0 width="100" height="53" ALIGN="RIGHT" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Movable rails</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Dust collection hook-ups<IMG SRC="18a64430.jpg" border=0 width="100" height="67" ALIGN="RIGHT" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><U>Contractor saws</U></B></div> <div> These saws were designed for more heavy duty work, and there are such a wide range of saws today that are called "contractor saws" that this classification of saws needs to be further broken down to be comprehensible. </div> <div> Generally, these saws feature a cast iron top, 1 or 2 cast iron "wings" (table extensions), A fence system at several different levels of quality, a splayed sheet metal legs/stand and an induction motor that hangs out the back of the saw and is connected to the arbor via a pulley and long belt. These long belts and pulleys tend to cause vibration, and this is why you see such huge sales of "Link Belts" and machined steel pulleys that help to eliminate the vibration for woodworkers who are not "contractors" and are wanting to do furniture or other "fine" woodworking.</div> <div> <B>The basic variables that you'll be dealing with (NOT counting Quality) are:</B></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Size of Table</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">How many, and what type of Wings (solid or open grid)</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Miter slot - standard size so after market accessories will work? "T" type of slot?</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Horsepower</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Fence system<IMG SRC="192966b0.jpg" border=0 width="150" height="107" ALIGN="RIGHT" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Included accessories such as</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Router Tables as extensions</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Mobile base</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Included blades</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Included Dust collection</div> <div> <B>Other factors to consider are:</B></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Type of switch<IMG SRC="19364640.jpg" border=0 width="100" height="100" ALIGN="RIGHT" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Voltage of motor (110v or 220v)</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Size/construction of handwheels</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Overall "beefiness" of trunions, arbor, blade elevating/tilting mechanisims... "the guts" eh..</div> <div> <B>Quality factors/ranges basically are:</B></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Quality of cast iron i.e. was it "aged", flatness, smoothness, mating of wings to main table etc.</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Switch - from a little flip up/down cheap toggle to a large magnetic switch</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Motor - Cheap mainland china made to an American made Baldor TEFC (Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled)</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Fit and finish - basically, how well everything matches up and how smooth the parts are</div> <div> <B>"Stealth Factors" are what I call the factors that influence the buying decision, but remain hidden and unseen or talked about... They include:</B></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">The Buddy Factor - If you're going to have buddies see this new saw, or your neighbor has a Unisaw, you're going to lean toward a bigger more powerful saw whether it's "overkill" for your needs or not.</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Color factor - Some saws are just plain painted a butt-ugly color and this makes you think it's a lower quality saw... whether it is or isn't doesn't matter, it's what YOU think that matters.</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Ego Factor - Face it... we buy a lot of things based on this... if we didn't, we'd all drive Yugos and Corvette's wouldn't have sold at all.</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><U>Cabinet Saws</U></B></div> <div> Designed for commercial use, these saws are big, strong, heavy and designed for years and years of use and then they can be passed on to another generation for more use. </div> <div> <B>The "Standards" for a typical cabinet saw are:</B></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Large cast iron table and wings</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Heavy enclosed stand/cabinet<IMG SRC="19596630.jpg" border=0 width="150" height="99" ALIGN="RIGHT" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">3-5 horsepower 220v TEFC motor connected to the arbor via 3 short V-Belts</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Large beefy trunions. arbor, bearings, and "guts"</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><U>Hybrid Saws</U></B></div> <div> Right now there are 3 tablesaws that I would incude in the category "Hybrid", meaning a cross between two or more other categories.</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">The DeWalt DW746 Contractor Table Saw<IMG SRC="19796640.jpg" border=0 width="150" height="100" ALIGN="RIGHT" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">The Jet JWSS-10PF "Supersaw"</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">The Ryobi BT3100</div> <div> I'll have to interject some "personal" opinion here a lot more heavy handed than I want to, but the Jet and the DeWalt have price tags that put them into, and beyond the prices of full size cabinet saws, and I personally haven't a clue what "niche" these saws were designed for. If you're going to spend $1500.00, wouldn't you want a 3HP cabinet saw instead of a 1 1/2HP contractors saw? I've got to assume that these were desgned for people who buy a Hummer for $100,000.00.</div> <div> The Ryobi BT3100 is a hybrid in that, size wise, is about the same as some benchtops saws, but it has some unique differences that set this saw well apart from both Contactor and Benchtop table saws. </div> <div> <B>The main differences/features that set the Ryobi BT3100 apart are:</B></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Dual Belt drive instead of direct drive</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">An accessory table that attaches to the rails as a wing is included as standard equipment... again, this is normally an add-on feature. <FONT SIZE="2" COLOR="#111111" FACE="Arial" >This accessory table is easily convertible to an onboard router table with the accessories provided in the Ryobi Router Kit, #4950300.</FONT></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Excellent dust collection, utilizing a blade shroud as part of the blade guard.</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">A high quality accurate fence system.</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Rails that slide left/right to handle larger stock</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">A good Freud combo blade</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">2 year warranty</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">With a $299 price tag and an excellent online forum dedicated to just BT3X00 users, this is a saw to consider if it meets your needs.</div> <div> A couple of other comments from yours truly....</div> <div> When you post a question on one of the Woodworking Forums, be as specific as you can with your question. </div> <div> Here's the deal... <I><U>EVERYONE</U></I> likes <U>their</U> tablesaw! So you get a lot of responses like "I have a (make/model) and I love it". Stop and ask yourself, Does that person and you have the same needs?... does he have any woodworking experience? You don't know?... of course you don't know... THAT'S my point! </div> <div> I read this typical response so many times it's astounding... I'd love to read once in a while that "I love my (insert make/model) because it has (feature) and (feature) and (quality) and, and, and... Now that'd be useful eh?</div> <div> Another important point is; The fence that comes with the tablesaw is VERY important! The good news is, nearly all the major players are great, and there's just differences in features, design, and price. I can't go into fences here, because that's a subject all by itself!</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><U>Summary</U></B></div> <div> <B><U>Here it is, in a nutshell:</U></B></div> <bR> <div> <B>Buy a benchtop if:</B></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">You need portability and will be taking the saw to a job site or...</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Cannot afford a BT3100</div> <div> <B>Buy the Ryobi BT3100 if:</B></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">You can only afford a benchtop, and you want an excellent, highly versatile saw for a home workshop</div> <div> <B>Buy a Contractor Saw if:</B></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">You will be working with heavier stock or sheet goods and/or</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">You need a saw that's going to be run for a long time each day and/or</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">You cannot afford a Cabinet Saw and/or</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">You're not really sure if this is a lifetime hobby for you</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">"Stealth Factors" wont let you buy a Benchtop or a Ryobi BT3100</div> <div> <B>Buy a Cabinet Saw if:</B></div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">all the reasons above for a Contractors saw and</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">You want/need more power</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">You want a smoother saw</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">"Stealth Factors" wont let you "settle" for a Contractors saw</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700c800000000.gif" HEIGHT="13" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">You know you're going to be woodworking for the rest of your life.</div> <div> I hope this helps give you the basics, and provides you with the ammo you need to shop and ask questions more effectively. Keep in mind, these are <U>my</U> opinions... <U>your</U> mileage may vary.</div> <div> Thanks!</div> <div> <I>Marc Phillips</I></div> <div> <B>Custom WoodCrafts</B></div> </td> </tr></table></body>