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David Tadman Writes
Our good friend David Tadman, author and historian of Bruce Lee, answers your questions. Sit back, relax and be amazed :)
On Rare Footages
1/ Recently footage was discovered from 'The Way of the Dragon.' Is this the 20 mins of behind the scenes and do you know who has it?
David Tadman (DT): I have been told be very reliable sources that yes, this does exist and certain people are negotiating to use it in a few projects. I believe it to be true.
2/ The 'Fist Of Fury' promo trailer with Bruce vs Bob Baker. Does this exist?
DT: That does exist and might come to light very soon. There are parties that be that want it for a project scheduled to come out.
3/ There are rumours that the BBC interviewed Bruce on the set of 'Enter the Dragon' back in 1973 and that they still have the footage in their vaults?
DT: Yes, this is true. John Saxon mentioned it to me, because he was in it. There is audio as well. Steve Kerridge is trying to locate it in the UK.
4/ Recently they've discovered footage from Elvis Presley in a martial arts movie with Ed Parker and also new Bruce Lee footage. Is this footage from Long Beach 1967?
DT: It is 67 in color close up great condition. Don Warner at Rising Sun Productions in Los Angeles owns it, but it was released at a convention years ago in Japan. It's great.
5/ I've read that there is footage of Bruce Lee and Steve McQueen training together. Bob Wall said that he has it, also JR Goodman said that he has seen it but the quality is terrible. What do you think?
DT: Let me put it this way, if Bob Wall had it, it would have been used by now in a documentary like "Curse of the Dragon." As far as JR, I doubt it unless you heard it from him personally. I know footage exists, because Robert Lee filmed them both as he filmed the backyard workouts as well.
6/ In 'The Big Boss' there is supposedly a scene where Bruce kills someone using a saw, and was shown in early showings of the film but was later cut. Could you give us any information about if this is now deleted altogether?
DT: Yes, I am aware of this scene and others that were cut for different reasons, depending on the different laws each country has that determines if violence or sex and it's degree of how much can be shown. I have seen the uncut version through Fred Weintraub. Fred has all of Bruce Lee's films in the original state uncut, because he was sent the films from Hong Kong by Raymond Chow to show what kind of actor / star Bruce was in HK, so Fred and Paul Heller can determine if they wanted to use him for Enter the Dragon. The footage still exists and I believe that Steve Kerridge of the UK has a print as well. I hope Hong Kong Legends will come out with the uncut version in the near future.
7/ What pictures do you have of the Game of Death 'log' sequence? And again is the footage deleted?
DT: I personally have no pictures of this scene. I have scene many in old magazines. Once again, Steve Kerridge has many of these pictures. Actually, this is probably where my pictures are the weakest, this particular log scene is hard to acquire, but I am sure George Tan has plenty as well. I have many pictures from Game of Death that are very rare, but I am sorry to say I do not have the ones you would like to see. If I do come across them, I will post them for you. I have seen the log scene footage though and know who has the complete log scene, but at this time I can't mention who has it, but lets just say, someone who was in one of the levels has that footage and was given that footage while he was in Hong Kong.
8/ What rare footage, object and pictures have you seen?
DT: I have seen rare Game, ETD, Boss, FOF, home workouts, talk show stuff and have had many opportunities to listen to audiotapes. All I have mentioned here have not been released out yet.
9/ Are you aware of any footage existing of Bruce Lee from Madison Square Garden in the Summer of 1967?
DT: I have not personally seen any of this, but from what I understand and hear, Jerry Simon who used to work at BB magazine at that time claims she knows footage exists. I can't say for sure if it was at the Gardens, but I do know for sure she said there is footage that exists that was taken in New York. In my opinion it was publicity, Green Hornet related. She has an incredible collection of photos taken in New York in 67 with Bruce at a strange looking press conference. Maybe that is the day.
10/ Which Hong Kong TV footage have you seen on Bruce and what was the quality like?
DT: I have seen something very cool from one of the producers at TVB HK. When I was doing Tale of the Dragon documentary, he showed me footage of Bruce at the Kai Tak airport returning from Thailand shooting Big Boss and Bruce was answering questions in Cantonese. I saw about three to four minutes of it, but the guy said it ran longer.
11/ I know for a fact that the MANDARIN version of the documentary "Bruce Lee: The Man & the Legend" has the log scene footage (I personally know someone who has seen it back in the early 80's at GH studios) as well as many Chinese interviews. However this version seems to have disappeared, is there any attempts to locate this version of this documentary?
DT: All that stuff in BLM&TL is still owned by Golden Harvest. Raymond Chow is sitting on some gold and will do nothing with it for some reason. Hong Kong Legends has asked for it, Media Asia has offered to buy it and so has Fortune Star, but no one gets any reply from Chow and I will tell you why. When Media Asia bought out most of the GH film library from Raymond chow a few years back, for a very cheap price, Chow never new the incredible value of these films and that included the 93-minute outtakes of GOD as well. It was only after Chow realized these films were being re-mastered and resold around the world making millions, that he tried to muscle his way in getting those films back from Media Asia, etc. Obviously, he could not do this Now, Chow just sits on everything he has and does nothing with it. I will tell you what though, I will make a conscious effort to see if I can get a copy of this footage from the person I know, to see if they will let HKL use it in something. I have nothing to loose in asking and to be honest, I have never thought about it before until you brought to my attention. Bey Logan would know as well, so lets see what I can do in the near future.
12/ Is there more pagoda footage? I've read somewhere that Bruce almost had done the fight between him and Wong In Sik on the first floor?
DT: I hear different things from the ones on set, but they all seem to think that footage was shot. I do not know this to be true. I spoke to Bey Logan a while ago and he told me there was more footage out there then what has been released. He is the one really to ask about that. He was privy to all the footage, because he found most of it, but that does not mean more was not found after he left GH.
13/ I have pictures from Bruce and Inosanto and Wu- Ngan practicing in Bruce's backyard in Kowloon for G.O.D. - is there also footage?
DT: Pictures, you mean screen captures right? I posted two a while ago and I am the only source for this footage, because I found it and have transferred it. It is great and rare and has audio. This is practice footage shot by Bruce at his house in Kowloon for GOD. This was shot the day Sifu Dan Inosanto arrived for filming.
14/ What do you know about the demo's and interviews from Bruce on the HK TVB 1970- 1973. Does more footage exist? I've heard some exists! Or is it at the Shaw Brothers vaults?
DT: It exists. I did a documentary a while ago and worked with two producers from TVB. I asked them about the footage and they sad yes, it does exist. They want an enormous amount of money to let others use it. They also had plans of coming out with all the interviews on a DVD. Not sure what the outcome will be.
15/ You previously mentioned in one of these posts that footage of Bruce on Seattle TV exists & is presently being located. I have an interview with Margaret Walters (Hawaii newspaper 1975) in which she was asked about this. She said that many people asked the TV station for the footage & they said it was their (company) policy to destroy them. What does she know we may ask but can you shed light on this?
DT: This footage was of Bruce and Taky demonstrating Chi Sao as well as using the wooden dummy, etc. It aired on a Thursday News station. I do not know the time. Taky thinks he might have a copy of it filmed by Doug Palmer. Bruce had it filmed.
16/ The Green Hornet screen test that Bruce did in front of the green background (again shown in A&E bio). Where is this and what does Bruce do?
DT: I think you are speaking of the costume screen test where Bruce from the neck up is looking at the camera and at the very end he makes a movement with his hands. This film was found by a man that was part of a cleaning crew on set of the Green Hornet. He had it for years until a guy name Randy Wong bought it from him and then later used it in some projects. You can notice Bruce moving his face to see how the mask fits. Hopefully you are speaking of this footage. I have a reel of it that Wong gave me years back. It is a nice piece.
17/ Did Bruce film the ground floor fight scene against the Karate men? If so, was he in his yellow tracksuit and did you see pictures of it ?
DT: Wu Ngan said that he did shoot some footage with Bruce outside with other men. I do not know if that is what we can see in the popular pictures out there, or it means something else. I am also learning more about it myself from Wu Ngan, but his daughter's do all the translations, so it takes time for me to get a response. I will let you know as soon as I do.
18/ There were rumours that Bruce filmed the first floor fight against Whang-In-Sikh (aka Hwang In-Shik) but why are there no pictures of it ? Did you see any pictures of it ?
DT: This is strange and according to Dan Inosanto, they did film more things and remebers Sikh flying in to do work, but who really knows. There is a search going on right now by a certain someone I know who is searching for other GOD footage. Lets hope and see. Bruce also sent some really rare pictures to Taky and Inosanto from the filming of GOD in where his is fighting Kareem, etc. The reason for this was, Bruce wanted to show Inosanto and Taky what he was doing before they came and shot their own scenes. Some of the pix are strange though and very rare. I am trying to piece it together, but I will say that a lot of those pix had some New Territories stuff going on.
19/ What is the last footage from Bruce on camera ? Is it the GOD footage or ETD footage ( In Han's Trophy room ) or his last interview on July 10th 1973 ?
DT: No one knows for sure, but I feel it was the last interview he did on TVB 1973. According to Wu Ngan, Bruce, he and some others shot some footage at Bruce's home in his front yard two to three days before Bruce passed away. I can't say though if this is true, but I trust Ngan.
20/ Did you believe that John Little put the right story on 'A Warrior's Journey' dvd ? And did you like the dvd and the footage ? I found it was great stuff !
DT: Well, I will just say this, I wish I could have seen certain things done to better clarify what was going on. You see, John Little did not have all the notes Bruce wrote on GOD to work off of. John Little never contacted Inosanto for certain reasons at that time to go through his notes to see what Bruce was doing GOD related, and for sure, I feel Inosanto has the most complete notes from Bruce on the GOD project. I thought the finished product is not what Bruce wanted to do as far as what he wanted to include in the fights. I have seen and heard different things to counter-act what John Little did. It was entertaining to me, but not filling enough for me. Let's face it though, I will not player hate, Little was the Bruce Lee man at that time, but to be honest, you can say all you want to about him, he still did the job to the best of his ability and I really feel he was sincere with his work. I have to tell you though, George Tan probably has the most information out there on what happened that was GOD related. I am not in any way trying to put Tan as the man here, but he really did the leg work back in the day before anyone else did, and had he done the documentary, it would have been a different story all together in my opinion.
On Forthcoming Projects
1/ When is there coming a new Bruce Lee documentary with rare footage?
DT: I am working on something that will show hopefully the full Ahna Capri footage and other things like that GOD footage I found. Lets see what happens.
2/ Have you any plans to interview Lou Gossett Jnr or James Garner?
DT: I have interviewed Garner three years ago and will use it in the future, Jr. would be cool, but I have not really put much thought into it. I am doing David Soul soon and a famous rock band of the 60's who Bruce trained.
3/ Have you interviewed any of the Chinese actors from Bruce Lee's martial art films, if so would you care to dispense with any interesting anecdotes that they may of come out with?
DT: Yes I have, and I will be using those interviews in the 1970-1973 book. I have some good stuff there. Though I have some good info from those actors Hong Kong side, people like Paul Li, Simon Leung have really hit the pavement so to speak in their search to know more about Bruce's Hong Kong life. Even Tan has had some great interviews with many of those actors that knew Bruce. I wish I had the time to stay in HK to really look up everyone and get all their personal anecdotes to share with everyone.
4/ Any plans to interview Roman Polanski?
DT: I wish I could ask him why he turned the detectives from his wife's murder over to investigate Bruce? I would love to interview him about Bruce and actually, Robert has corresponded with him to try and set a phone interview up. Hope it happens. I will just have to make sure there are no young girls around. Just a joke...
5/ I've heard that Warner Bros has a huge array of photos from 'Enter the Dragon' & correspondence letters to and from Bruce. Do you think Warner Bros will ever release these in a book format?
DT: Funny you should ask, I am working with Paul Heller and others to make this happen. The idea was turned down twice, but now we are taking it from a different angle. It might happen. Unfortunately, Warners won't show any writings from Bruce, because Concord Moon will go after them. That is of course, if they are not involved. Very political.
6/ What do you think will be the most eagerly anticipated event or release in Bruce lee fandom for us fans in the future?
DT: The release of all Bruce Lee's interviews with TVB HK, etc. on DVD. Other footage like the Way of the Dragon behind the scenes footage and the Henry Wong footage as well. They have all been long awaited.
7/ When is your interview with Wu Ngan being released?
DT: I will be using the complete interview with Ngan Jai in Robert's last of four books, 1970-1973. I am speaking with him again soon to ask a few more questions.
8/ Do you know when John Saxon's book is coming out with his wonderful personal photos from Enter the Dragon?
DT: I am working on the book with John now. We are in the beginning stages and keep finding more and more negatives. Lucky me I guess. I am sure next year will be a release with the book. I will keep everyone updated who is interested.
9/ Are you going to release footage in the future featuring Bruce Lee in his backyard in Kowloon were he, Dan Inosanto and Wu-Ngan did rehearsal fight scenes for The Game Of Death ?
DT: We are working on the right avenue for the footage. Perhaps a platinum edition DVD on GOD. There's also a 'Fist of Fury' platinum edition from Hong Kong Legends.
General Information
1/ What was George Lazenby's role in 'The Game of Death'?
DT: From the notes I have seen through Dan Inosanto, he was supposed to be some type of philosopher / poet / mythical type of guru. Bruce's script was changing it seemed every day.
2/ Do you know which was Bruce Lee's last photo? There is one of Bruce holding a picture of the Rolls Royce that he ordered not long before he passed away. Have you seen or do you have this one? Is this his last? There was some dispute about the Rolls as it was supposed to be ordered, reported in the newspapers, but the company after Bruce's passing deny that it had been ordered. Raymond Chow rushed to make a statement that Bruce had more than enough money to afford the Rolls.
DT: The Rolls Royce pictures were not the last to be taken in my opinion. The last known pictures to be taken were taken by a Japanese tourist / fan that had visited the Golden Harvest Studios two weeks before Bruce passed away. You might have seen some of the pictures. Black and White with Bruce making numerous poses near lights surrounding a theatrical set. They have been posted by some others and me in the past. Also, there is an interview conducted by TVB with Bruce and in that interview Bruce speaks on ETD. There are pictures in old magazines that show that interview. A producer I know who works for TVB said he saw it and hopefully it will be put on a DVD compilation of all Bruce's TVB interviews in the future. I guess the truth is, we will never really know what and when the very last picture was taken, but at least we have some type of idea. Bruce did order that Rolls before he started production on Enter the Dragon. My conversations with Fred Weintraub, Paul Heller and even John Saxon have told me that Bruce before production was telling each of them in how he ordered the car and how the color of the car was going to be the best color in the world. When asked to Bruce what is the color, he said, "The only car in the world baby, Gold."
3/ In the documentary, A Warrior's Journey, it shows Bruce's daytime diary and they show Bruce's last day 20th July and the 20th September with the note in the diary "Game" next to this date. I am guessing this has something to do with George Lazenby returning to Hong Kong to film Game of Death. Now in Letters of the Dragon book, there is a letter to/or from Shaws brothers about a film project for Bruce, do you known anything about this? Wouldn't Bruce doing a movie for Raymond Chow's big rival cause a lot of trouble? And was this the period photos (or the jade photos as they are sometimes called) we see Bruce posing for?
DT: Yes, Bruce had written down in other sources his meetings that day for Game. I spoke with Betty Ting Pei and got her take on the day, since she was with him all day long from lunch on actually. She even told me what he ate that day. Anyway, if we are going to believe her, she says that on that day, it was all production meetings having to do with Game of Death. As far as Shaw Brothers, yes, Bruce was in negotiations with the Brothers to do a film. When Bruce was filming Enter the Dragon, he and Saxon went to the Shaw Studios to meet with the brothers and Bruce told Saxon, if they can pay millions of dollars to Marlon Brando in America, then the Shaw Brothers will do the same for me. Bruce did two shoots, one in black and white that was a test shoot at Golden Harvest and the last shoot in color at Shaw Studios, the one with Bruce much thinner and in very colorful garb. Bruce had two deals going. One was called the Bamboo Warrior in which that was supposed to be the name and then there was a film to be called Sai Fong that he approved by a writer who is still in HK, a female who was paid by Bruce and Golden Harvest to write the script back in 1973. I also saw Warner Brothers correspondence with Bruce while he was filming ETD and it showed that they wanted Bruce to start a new project right after ETD finished and Bruce agreed to do it. Another spy film I believe.
4/ If Bruce were alive today, what do you think he would make of today's films?
DT: I personally think Bruce would like many of the story lines in dramatic films, especially films that have to do with philosophy and the human condition. As far as martial arts films, I think he would find that they fall short in their content and just show violence for violence sake. I do feel he would love the action / martial arts of this new star called Tony Ja. He is a no wire trick actor and stays true to the old Hong Kong ways of action / martial arts flicks. I really feel that Bruce would want to direct Tony Ja in a film of his own.
5/ How did Betty Ting Pei meet Bruce?
DT: According to Betty and what she told me, she was at a hotel in Hong Kong having dinner with others and Bruce walked out from an elevator into the hallway. She first saw him in that manner. She then was introduced to Bruce by Raymond Chow later on. Betty knew Raymond and many entertainment people firstly through her mother.
6/ Was Bruce's training and eating different in Hong Kong to USA?
DT: I really do not know his eating habits in Hong Kong, but coming from Nancy Kwan who had dinner with him the night before he passed away, and also eating with Betty, Bruce liked a lot of fruit, especially bananas and oranges as well as a lot of sushi. Betty said they ate at their favorite Japanese place all the time. I guess he was eating normally.
7/ Do you know anything about his workouts in Hong Kong? And what he was eating? I heard he was putting steak in a blender?
DT: Yes, I do know a lot about his workouts in HK, he worked out with John Saxon during Enter the Dragon and Sammo Hung on occasion. From what Saxon said to me, Bruce was into a lot of self imagine as part of his workout regime. Saxon also said that Bruce brought him into a room he had outside in back at the house in Kowloon. Bruce had tin foil all over the walls and windows with a red light hanging from the ceiling. Bruce told John, “this is where I come to unwind and meditate, saying the tin-foil helped keep his Chi in the room while he trains and meditates. Bruce felt that the tin foil and light generated Bruce's internal Chi and kept it in his body by it reflecting off the walls. It sounds strange, but at that time, there were books on this subject and a famous professor that promoted this type of thing. I have heard nothing in regards to him blending a steak, but many in those days did, especially the boxers in the 50's.
8/ Did Bruce have his axillary sweat glands removed in 11-1972; can you shed light on this?
DT: Yes, the glands were removed and Betty Ting Pei was with him while the procedure was done. That of course is what she told me. I think the date is wrong though. According to Betty it was for looks, meaning, without sweat-glands under the arms, you are not appearing on camera to sweat. I think it was as simple as that. To be honest, all we have heard about these glands are second hand information, so how could we be sure unless we were there ourselves.
9/ Any idea what happened to the props from The Game of Death, Bruce's tracksuit,his nunchucks and co stars outfits?
DT: From what I have heard from others in Hong Kong, much of that stuff was destroyed, but there are a few that claim they have set pieces from GOD, FOF and ETD. Bob Wall has tons of the yellow karate uniforms from ETD as well as the flags that were on the lawns / grounds, as well as the patches of Han's guards. Linda has the real black catsuit and yellow tracksuit. She sold only the duplicates at auction, but she has the real stuff at home. Just ask Jeff Chinn who bought Bruce's blue Kung Fu uniform from ETD. He thought he bought the real deal until he saw the real one hanging in a display at one of the Educational Foundations events. Man, he was upset at that. Robert has some cool goods as well. He has the Kung Fu shoes from ETD as well as the Uniform from FOF.
10/ What was the inside scoop about the infamous July 10th fight with Lo Wei. Rumors were that Bruce after hearing Lo Wei say he was the cause of Bruce's stardom, chased him down, got into argument and pulled a knife on him and finally the police were called and Bruce signed some note that he would not hurt Lo Wei and that evening he went on Hong Kong TV for what turn out to be his last filmed performance. Now wasn't Lo Wei linked with the triads and a rather large gambler? And wasn't there meant to be a third Bruce and Lo Wei film but Bruce pulled out and made Raymond form Concord with him and film "Way of the Dragon" without Lo Wei? Now I also recalled something about Jackie Chan running into some trouble in the late 70's with the triads and Lo Wei and being moved to America until Raymond Chow paid a rather large sum of money? Know anything about this?
DT: Lo Wei was connected big time, but the argument came because Bruce wanted freedom in doing what he knew best. How to choreograph and direct himself. They had a fight, but it is obvious Bruce got his way in the end. Yes, the cops were sent, which showed how big of a baby Wei was. Wei did not get any triad guys on Bruce then, just the cops I guess. Jackie did have trouble, but I do not know the extent of what happened with him.
11/ What ever happened to all the items in the World of Bruce Lee Museum?
DT: Well, it seems that the items that Grace Lee and Robert Lee let Norman borrow have been sold by him or put into hiding. What a shame, but that's OK, because Robert has tons of great items he hopes to put on display in the near future in China.
On his Death
1/ I' m somewhat sketchy on the dates but can you tell me what year Bruce started using the hash/cannabis? I'm interested because they found it in his stomach at the autopsy. In your opinion was the death drug related?
DT: Bruce was introduced to Cannabis / hash in and around 1968-69 through a few people by the names of James Coburn, Steve McQueen and one other who I wont mention because he is a friend of mine and was an old student and friend of Bruce Lee's. To me, if Bruce were doing those types of drugs in 68-69, he would not pass away from those same drugs in 1973. Actually, that would make him the first ever who had passed away from those particular drugs. At least, that is what the Dr. report said. Now, that does not mean he could not overdose with those particular drugs, but that would be hard if it was at your own hands so to speak. I think you would actually fall asleep on cannabis before you, yourself, could take a lethal dose.
2/ Was the cerebral edema caused by an allergic reaction to a certain hash rather than from an equagesic tablet which he had taken for years and not on May 10th either when he had his first brain edema?
DT: I will state my belief and say that any edema was not caused by cannabis or pill. I believe something else caused the swelling.
3/ Was Bruce Lee's dramatic weight loss from 1972 to his death caused by using a bad form of Nepalese hash? Dr Peter Wu said that it was the only possible reason for his May 10th collapse and had apparently told Bruce to stop using it.
DT: My belief is that Bruce did not have any reaction to at least these following drugs, cannabis and or Hashish in any form. He was doing these drugs since the late 60's and obviously knew his limitations. He was also eating hashish brownies, so he knew the outcome of that form of use a swell. Let me just say if a doctor from the UK or United
States said the cause of death was because of the use of these drugs, then I would have to agree, but the simple truth is, there has not been one professional doctor that is the head of any department here in the U.S. or European countries that claim Bruce's death was related to any drugs relating to the ones mentioned above. That does not mean that any certain foreign substance / chemical could have been added to what Bruce ingested without his knowledge. People take drugs all the time that have been laced with another foreign substance that gives them a
reaction and the end result is either death or bad reaction that leaves them in the hospital emergency room. Lets just remember that Bruce was only sick in Hong Kong and not here in the U.S. He almost dies once and came here for a check up to the top doctor of neurology at UCLA, he happened to be Paul Heller's doctor, the producer of ETD. They found no cause for Bruce's almost passing a month previous when he was editing. I am sorry, but if you go into a coma and almost die and are very sick, and for week can't talk, or talk with a slur like you had a stroke, then when you come back to the States to be checked out by a top doctor and have numerous test and blood tests on top of that, and there is nothing found, then that means something is happening to you in the other place you live. If the cause of you passing out and almost passing away were serious then for sure they would have found something physically wrong with Bruce here at the top clinic located at UCLA at that time. Sorry to ramble on, but those are my feelings and
according to the papers I have, those are the facts.
Big Thanks to David Tadman and all who helped in putting this together. Thanks to Jan and to the fans who asked the questions - Leon, Andrew, Graham, Simon, Pedro, Michael & Matt.
Compiled by Nick Clarke (March 2005)
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