TREES-LOUNGE MAILING LIST ARCHIVES
April 1 - 6, 1998
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:10:31 -0700 (MST)
From: Puckawuck
Subject: Parade and Trusting Beatrice
Hey, everyone--
I found a small (microscopic) picture of Steve in Parade, a little news
magazine that comes with the Sunday paper down here (the Miami Herald). He
isn't even mentioned by name ("Bruce Willis and co-stars"). He's wearing a
red space suit and standing with about 5 other guys. I have a feeling that
pic will be popping up elsewhere, so don't fret if your newspaper didn't have
it. (It was in last Sunday's edition). It also says part of the movie was
filmed in Florida. RATS! Faraway, so close...
I haven't been able to find "Trusting Beatrice" anywhere. Anyone have any
advice on this?
Thanks,
Puck
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:11:18 -0700 (MST)
From: Kelly
Subject: Re: Trusting Beatrice
Hi,
I just saw TRUSTING BEATRICE a couple months ago and, didn't like it
too much, but I loved Steve in it. Even though he only has like, three
scenes.
I also saw ME AND THE MOB, BORDERS, & KISS DADDY GOODNIGHT. So, I can
take those off my list of Steve movies that I haven't seen. ME AND THE
MOB was horrible. Fortunately, I didn't have to wait long to see
Steve's part -- it's at the beginning, and it's small. He's doing the
sleazy, paranoid guy thing. His part in BORDERS is bigger. He looks
soooo young in that one! KISS DADDY GOODNIGHT: to be honest, I didn't
even watch all of it -- only the Steve part (small, of course). He
always looks cute! But, to those of you who won't rent or watch a
movie only because Steve's in it, I suggest that you stay away from
KDG, and M&TM. BORDERS is a shorter docudrama that deals with how the
government used (& still uses) young, naive physics scientists to make
nuclear weapons. If you don't like to watch that kind of stuff, you
probably shouldn't rent that one.
Check ya later,
Kelly
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:23:09 -0700 (MST)
From: Froggie
Subject: Re: Cost of Trees Lounge
> I heard that Living In Oblivion just came out on video. Does anybody know
> where to buy it? I mean for a reasonable price, not $80.00. My local video
> store doesn't carry it to rent. HHHHEEEELLLLPPPPPP!!!!!!!!! Thanks.
You'll find that the purchase price for videos that just came out are
sometimes $80, usually more. Give it a month, I think, and you should
find it at a more reasonable price. Video catalogs are a great place to
check.
Melissa
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:11:31 -0700 (MST)
From: "Rebecca L. Webb"
Subject: Re: Cost of LIO
In message Froggie writes:
> You'll find that the purchase price for videos that just came out are
> sometimes $80, usually more. Give it a month, I think, and you should
> find it at a more reasonable price.
SPLASH. A dash of cold water for ya. LIO (which someone was saying cost $80)
did NOT just come out on video. It was dubbed best video release of 1995 by
Siskel and Ebert. I think, if it was expensive then and it's still expensive
now, it's gonna stay expensive.
Funny that the LIO seeker should mention the video not being at the local video
store. It aint at mine, either, despite my recommending it and Siskel
and Ebert honoring it. So answer me this. If the film tanked at the box
office, isn't being screened on cable stations, and isn't being carried
by many video stores...how could Tom DiCillo possibly get financing for a
sequel? It hasn't enjoyed success on any level except among an esoteric
group of fans.
{Having looked at the transcript/interview that alluded to a "sequel" for
LiO, I found that the person asking the questions was merely saying how
cool it would be for there to be a sequel. There was nothing about
DiCillo actually planning on even wanting to do a sequel.}
Rebecca
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:12:34 -0700 (MST)
From: NASPROD
Subject: Re: Parade and Trusting Beatrice
What's trusting Beatrice about, I must be really out of it becuase I've never
even heard of it.
I'm really looking forward to Buscemi on SNL, even though I think SNL's been
sour for a very long time. I just hope they don't do another cheesy tarantino
thing with Buscemi as Buddy Holly.
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:14:18 -0700 (MST)
From: NASPROD
Subject: DICILLO AND BUSCEMI
I was wondering if anyone saw Real Blonde. After I saw Buscemi in Living in
Oblivion, I saw Tom DiCillo's Johnny Suede and Box of Moonlight. I like both
of them a lot, but haven't been down to the art house to see Real Blonde, I
wanted to know what anyone thought.
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:28:03 -0700 (MST)
From: RRoux2
Subject: What if.........
Hi everyone,
What if Steve Buscemi is actually really on the list using a different
name????? I mean, who's to say he wasn't surfing the net one day, found out
about the list, and thought "Oh, what the heck I'll sign up, this will be
fun". OOOOOORRRRRRRR, what if Marni is really Steve!?!?!?! Yeah, he assumes
a different name and gender and starts his own list! What do you have to say
about that Marni?!?!?! If that's your real name!!!!!! Come on Steve fess up!
Are you on the list??????
I'm just kidding ya' Marni!!! But seriously, THANKS to Marni for doing this
mailing list, and thanks to everybody on here for keeping me and everybody
else on the list informed. I just thought everybody deserved three cheers and
a hooray and a big WOOHOO! Sorry I'm just in a really good mood and I'm hyper
today!!!!
Tricia
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:35:50 -0700 (MST)
From: "dlm"
Subject: Re: Parade
|
| I found a small (microscopic) picture of Steve in Parade, a little news
| magazine that comes with the Sunday paper down here (the Miami Herald).
| He isn't even mentioned by name ("Bruce Willis and co-stars"). He's
| wearing a red space suit and standing with about 5 other guys. I have a
| feeling that pic will be popping up elsewhere, so don't fret if your
| newspaper didn't have it. (It was in last Sunday's edition).
We get Parade too & I also noticed that pic, but I didn't mention it cause
I have an awful memory.
Mary
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:43:55 -0700 (MST)
From: RRoux2
Subject: Re: Cost of LIO:the continuing saga
Hi there!
It's Tricia, I'm the one looking for LIO. I wasn't very clear on what I meant
by just coming out on video. I know that it's been out for a while on video
but the article I read said it was being released on video for sale price like
around $14.99-$19.99 instead of the $80.00 price. When movies come out they
come out for rental price and sale price. Rental price is sky-high (like
$80.00) for video stores to buy to put out for rent and sale price is the $15.
to $20. range for the average person to buy. Living In Oblivion apparently
has only been out for rental price. The reason I'm sending this to the list
instead of personal reply is because I was wondering if anyone has any
information on this. Thanks
Tricia
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:44:39 -0700 (MST)
From: mwdallam
Subject: Trusting Beatrice
"Trusting Beatrice" is basically about a woman and her child and the guy
who falls in love with them. The woman shrouds herself in mystery and keeps
everyone at arm's length. This is all irrelevant; of course we only care
about Steve's significance. He has a small part (though dispersed through
several scenes) as a lawyer. I found him particularly amusing in this one
though.
Marie
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:52:26 -0700 (MST)
From: NASPROD
Subject: Interesting Stuff
It's interesting to me that there are a lot of female fans of Buscemi on the
list.
I am not being sexist, but to back up my point:
The girls I go to school with, they know of the 'sex-appeal' actors, but the
movie going girls who watch independent films really love Buscemi. I was just
wondering why that is, obviously not sex-appeal, sorry Steve, becuase, let's
face it, he's funny-looking. The males who I know who watch movies know much
less of his work, except Reservoir Dogs.
Wondering, hope some people can explain?
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:05:59 -0700 (MST)
From: "Kym"
Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff
>It's interesting to me that there are a lot of female fans of Buscemi on
>the list.
>
>I am not being sexist, but to back up my point:
>
>The girls I go to school with, they know of the 'sex-appeal' actors, but
>the movie going girls who watch independent films really love Buscemi. I
>was just wondering why that is, obviously not sex-appeal, sorry Steve,
>becuase, let's face it, he's funny-looking. The males who I know who
>watch movies know much less of his work, except Reservoir Dogs.
>
>Wondering, hope some people can explain?
I can only speak for myself here, but I found Steve to be sexually appealing
only after growing to appreciate his enormous talent. If he were not such a
great actor, I might not find him as attractive. It takes something more
than just looks to get my attention!
Kym
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:28:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Marni Hager
Subject: Steve interview of Tim Roth
Hi Everyone,
I'm just hanging out waiting for more people to post to the list, and am
taking the time to look for new things on the web about Steve. Well, I
stumbled on a Tim Roth page that has an article from something called Bomb
that is an interview of Roth done by Steve. (Steve has also done one of
Dermot Mulroney.) Anyway, for those that want to check it out, the URL is
as follows:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/8133/art12.html
I personally find it interesting because the people who know each other
always ask more interesting questions. (After all, why do they want to
hear what underwear the person wears?)
Marni
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:12:23 -0700 (MST)
From: Kelly
Subject: LIO Sequel Possibility/ What If?
Hi--
sorry to have gotten anybody's hopes up about a LIO sequel. When I
wrote that DiCillo was talking about the possibility of a sequel, I
didn't mean anything definite. I just meant that he was kind of
throwing the idea around. BUT -- That's how sequels get started; the
director, or actors start thinking & talking about the possibility --
What if?
Speaking of "What if," I've often wondered if Steve has ever seen what
we say about him. Even if he isn't on the list himself, he could have
a friend who is.
HI STEVE, WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!! ;*
Later,
Kelly
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:10:17 -0700 (MST)
From: "Rebecca L. Webb"
Subject: Re: LIO Sequel Possibility/ What If?
In message Kelly writes:
> I've often wondered if Steve has ever seen what
> we say about him. Even if he isn't on the list himself, he could have
> a friend who is.
You shouldn't be surprised if that is the case. I mean, come on, there wouldn't
be flaks and press clipping services if actors (among others) weren't addicted
to seeking out all mentions and discussion of themselves. Even Steve took a
flak to Sundance with him the year LIO played there. [source - Tom DiCillo's
"eating crow" diary on the making of LIO]
> sorry to have gotten anybody's hopes up about a LIO sequel.
> BUT -- That's how sequels get started; the
> director, or actors start thinking & talking about the possibility --
Darn straight. What have we got to lose from hoping? It's fun to speculate.
Does anybody else have thoughts/ ideas on content? Is Wanda with Chad? Back
with Wolf? Is Nick married to Nicole? Ooh, ooh, how about this? (not to be
hung up on awards shows, they just seem like a valid plot device). Nick and
Wolf have made another small flick while Wanda and Bob and... crud, what's the
focus-puller's name? Kevin Corrigan's character?...anyway, those three have
made TSUNAMI w/ Chad. So it's Awards weekend in March and the small flick is up
for a Spirit Award and the big flick is up for an Oscar. They all live in New
York and are flying out for the awards when a snowstorm grounds them in a
Nebraska airport.
Rebecca
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:59:33 -0700 (MST)
From: NASPROD
Subject: Re: LIO Sequel Possibility/ What If?
It'd be interesting if they did a kind of Blue In the Face thing of LIO. I
know that a lot of people didn't like Blue in the Face, but it'd be
interesting to see if DiCillo could pull it off.
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:59:57 -0700 (MST)
From: Cats Kats
Subject: LIO
I don't know if this will help you find out the price or not, but here is a
website for LIO:
http://www.spe.sony.com/Pictures/SonyClassics/living/living.html
Jennifer
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:00:50 -0700 (MST)
From: Cats Kats
Subject: Steve web page
I found an interesting page about Steve where he says about his roles in such
films as "Fargo" and others.....
(Text) But in person, Buscemi appears remarkably low-key and modest, without a
hint of his frazzled screen personal.
(Steve) "These characters are so far from the image I have of myself" he says
about his collection of psychos. "And yet I always find something withing the
character to hook into, so I can put in some of myself. Everybody has a dark
side; they just don't get to express it very much."
If you are interested in looking at this page, the address is:
http://data.detnews.com/menu/stories/38942.htm
Jennifer
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:02:23 -0700 (MST)
From: Cats Kats
Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff
My mom thinks he is the ugliest person alive....she especially hates his
teeth.
I think he is one of the hottest, sexiest man alive....because of his acting.
I really think that is what this is all about.
Truthfully, who here on the list would stop him on the street and say: "I
would love to go out with you because you are the hottest man alive!" if he
was not an actor? If you had never seen him before in your life?
Let's think about this one.....;) I have so much respect and
admiration for him that I can't help but luv him, ya know. I am glad he is
such a great actor, writer, director.....etc.
Sometimes, respect=love in the hollywood circuit.
Long live our boy Steve!!!
Jennifer
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:04:09 -0700 (MST)
From: "dlm"
Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff
| I was just wondering why that is, obviously not sex-appeal, sorry Steve,
| becuase, let's face it, he's funny-looking.
Actually my best friend, my sis, & myself do find him cute & sexy.
Maybe funny looking by conventional standards, but who set these standards
? I mean a bunch of preppy snobs somewhere (ex. Carson Daly). But if you
honestly don't think he's attractive maybe you'll like this answer better.
It's his mannerisms & sarcasm.
| The males who I know who watch movies know much less of his work, except
| Reservoir Dogs.
Know what ? My dad's a fan of Steve & when I was having my dad vote in The
1st Annual MMM Awards http://members.tripod.com/~actressMMM/mmm.html
he was like well I'm not picking Steve Buscemi, because he wasn't in Con
Air that much. So, I guess he really judges Steve's work. None of us have
seen Reservoir Dogs though.
Mary
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:16:51 -0700 (MST)
From: "Terri Keefe"
Subject: rental vs. sale price..
At my local block buster store, the guy said that it (LIO) was for sale at
$96.00. I was upset...he said it was because it was never released to the
public. He said he didn't know if it was going to be released any time
soon, either. He advised me to call every video store in town, rent it and
copy it with a hook up. He said he would tell me how to hook up the VCRs
if I find the movie. I know it's illegal, but he's in the business and
suggested it!!!
Oh Well!!!
Terri
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:16:06 -0700 (MST)
From: DJD0226
Subject: Re: Sex Appeal
This is to the guy who want's to know why women find Steve interesting. Well
I can only speak for myself on this but what caught my eye was Steve's humor.
The guy crack's me up. I saw him in a few movies but I didn't really notice
him until LOI. Once he got me laughing he had my attention. His humor makes
him interesting and lovable, and yes, even sexy. And of course you can't deny
his talent. He can do it all.
He also exude's confidence and energy, two qualities I find extremely
attractive in a person. Looking like Brad Pitt doesn't necessarily make you
special. Wouldn't you agree?
Donna
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:17:19 -0700 (MST)
From: Herb Wolfe
Subject: Steve on Conan report
A pretty good interview. They talked about the movies Steve's in currently
and how he's typecast as a "creepy guy" then went on to explain how that
came about. Steve mentioned how his dad was into the occult and how his dad
was the person who got him started in the bad guy roles. Conan then
mentioned how they'd seen each other at the opening of The Wedding Singer
and went on about Steve hosting SNL. Finally, they had Steve demonstrate
his surprise wrestling move from his high school days.
My only complaint was that Steve's voice seemed quiter than I'm used to.
- -herb
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:18:50 -0700 (MST)
From: EggiwegGrL
Subject: Re: Sex Appeal
> The girls I go to school with, they know of the 'sex-appeal' actors, but the
> movie going girls who watch independent films really love Buscemi. I was
> just wondering why that is, obviously not sex-appeal, sorry Steve,
> becuase, let's face it, he's funny-looking.
>
> Wondering, hope some people can explain?
>
its something about his big blue eyes, his teeth, his everything. steve is
incredibly f***ing sexy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:22:14 -0700 (MST)
From: "Rebecca L. Webb"
Subject: Re: LIO Sequel Possibility/ What If?
In message NASPROD writes:
> It'd be interesting if they did a kind of Blue In the Face thing of LIO.
Correct me if I'm wrong. SMOKE was the straight fictional piece and BLUE IN THE
FACE was a "behind the scenes" thing with snippets of the cast as themselves as
well as snippets in character?
{Actually, BinF was mainly improv using the same characters as Smoke and
then some. There was no "behind the scenes" stuff with the cast as
themselves.}
Rebecca
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:22:58 -0700 (MST)
From: "Rebecca L. Webb"
Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff
In message dlm writes:
> let's face it, he's funny-looking.
Could you be more specific?
Or do you just mean funny-looking in a general sorta way?
Is he funnier looking than most?
These FARGO flashbacks were brought to you by Rebecca, only 2.5 hours
from FARGO by car.
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:23:55 -0700 (MST)
From: "Rebecca L. Webb"
Subject: Re: rental vs. sale price..
In message Terri Keefe writes:
> I know it's illegal, but he's in the business and suggested it!!!
At the risk of sending my sweet a** to jail should the feds be lurking, my
copy was pirated for me by a Pittsqueak. She needed one of those
descramblers to do it...it's got that copy-protector device on it.
Rebecca
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:28:20 -0700 (MST)
From: Jessica M Bates
Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff
Hi, this is my first post. I've been reading for a couple of weeks now
and what better way to start off than to explain what I'm doing here.
>It's interesting to me that there are a lot of female fans of Buscemi
>on the list. I am not being sexist, but to back up my point:
>The girls I go to school with, they know of the 'sex-appeal' actors,
That's what the "sex-appeal" actors are there for. Marketing. Execs
know that there is a certain percentage of the population who would pay to
see Brad Pitt or Leonardo di Caprio read the back of a Spam can.
Personally, I'm not impressed by the lot of them.
>but themovie going girls who watch independent films really love Buscemi.
>I was just wondering why that is, obviously not sex-appeal, sorry Steve,
>becuase, let's face it, he's funny-looking. The males who I know who
>watch movies know much less of his work, except Reservoir Dogs.
>Wondering, hope some people can explain?
In my experience, men know who he is, but not his name. I usually
have to go down the list until something clicks, then I get "Yeah, he's
great."
My personal experience on the road to non-obsessive Steve worship: I
didn't really like him at first because in the roles I saw he reminded me
too much of my ex-husband (short NY guy w/attitude), but I saw Con Air,
and something clicked. I realized he was really good, and he seems to get
the best lines in his movies. I wandered through the web to find anything
on him, ended up here, and taped Trees Lounge off Showtime. After that
there was no hope, I was hooked. I have great admiration for
writer/director/actors; Kenneth Branagh being at the top of the list.
There's just something about him that's attractive to me. Such a
small percentage of the world looks like Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, that
I put little stock in looks alone. That and I have strange tastes to start
with...
Jess
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:16:24 -0700 (MST)
From: Stacey McAuley
Subject: Re: LIO/Conan/Real Blonde
Hey everyone,
I just ordered LIO from my local Border's Book Store. They did
not have a price for it, so I'm waiting until it comes in to see how much
it will be. I should be able to pick it up in about two weeks. I'll make
sure to let everyone know how much it is.
I saw Steve on Conan last night. He is so real! Did anyone else
know that Steve wrestled in high school? His wrestling move on Andy was
hilarious!
Does anyone know if The Real Blonde is going into general release?
Thanks,
Stacey
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:45:54 -0700 (MST)
From: NASPROD
Subject: STEVE SEXY?
I was wondering why some people have interest mainly foir sex appeal, but for
Steve the females seem to have a type of Woody Allen affection, interesting,
I'll note this in my book"females and their infatuations"(kidding)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:09:45 -0700 (MST)
From: Kelly
Subject: Steve on Conan
He looked soooo good! He was funny, and he seemed like a really sweet
guy. This was a way better interview than the one for TREES LOUNGE a
couple years ago. But, what made him think that he could pin Andy down!
And, was I hearing things, or did his knees pop when he knelt down? It
was a funny moment, though. He looked so embarrassed -- but it was too
cute! I wonder if the makers of ARMAGEDDON will be mad at him for giving
away part of the ending (middle?) of the movie? God, I can't wait to
watch him on SNL tomorrow!
Later,
Kelly
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:10:38 -0700 (MST)
From: Cats Kats
Subject: Conan
Wow...how great was that everyone??? My friends and I literally had a
"Countdown to Conan" last night.
Steve is such a great storyteller, and I love him even more now that I saw
that he has fans everywhere...Conan and his audience, for example!!!
Believe me, Steve can give me his "reverse cradle" anytime!!! Or I will just
opt to see a movie at a drive-in!!!!
Jennifer P.S. Seeing Steve on all 4's was kinda kinky.....;)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:18:29 -0700 (MST)
From: Cats Kats
Subject: The Real Blonde in general release & review
Hello everyone!!! Conan was great...."I bow to Steve Buscemi." I can't
wait 'til SNL!!!!
Anyways....my local paper here in dayton, ohio has a section called the "Go!"
The Real Blonde opened here (in one theater) and they critiqued it. They
rate movies out of 4 stars...the Real Blonde got two and a half stars.
Here is what the article said (Steve is mentioned once at the end):
'Real Blonde' Dares To Be Profound: Exploration of freedom vs. duty is only
skin deep
Tom DiCillo turns his satirical eye to the shallow world of New York City
models and actors in The Real Blonde, a quirky romantic comedy about the
search for sincerity.
The opening-night selection at the 1998 Sundance Film Festival follows the
thread of DiCillo's previous efforts, which include "Living in Oblivion" and
"Box of Moonlight," by exploring the tension between independence and
responsibility. Unfortunately, his scattered but enjoyable ensemble piece
doesn't peer beneath the surface level.
DiCillo's meandering screenplay never really settles into a specific plot,
seeming instead like a collision of self-absorbed characters. Only the
central couple, Joe (Matthew Modine) and Mary (Catherine Keener), are fairly
well realized.
The comic look at urban relationships is entertaining, nonetheless.
Joe is a struggling actor whose high standards keep him from working as
anything but a waiter for the fastitioud Ernst (Christopher Lloyd). At
35, Joe has no agent, credits, or money. The latter is a constant source
of tension between Joe and his live-in lover, Mary, a makeup artist for a
hotshot fashion photographer named Blair (Marlo Thomas).
Mary's job also includes appeasing high-strung models such as the
insecure Sahara (Bridgette Wilson), a bottle blonde who finds spirituality
in animated Disney movies. Mary vents her frustration with the help of a
creepy therapist (Buck Henry) and a verbally abusive self-defense
instructor (Denis Leary).
Completing the picture is Joe's insensitive friend Bob (Maxwell
Caulfield), a fellow waiter who lands a role on a daytime soap and longs
to date a true blonde. Bob's conquests include his vampy co-star, Kelly
(Daryl Hannah), and Sahara, which brings things full-circle.
Joe is obsessed with being a "real" actor. Mary wants Joe to settle down
and get "real." Bob will only be happy with a "real" blonde. The story,
like their lives, follows a spiral pattern in which situations, character
and lines of dialogue that repeatedly cycles. People meet without ever
really connecting, sharing superficial interests and careers more than
they share themselves.
DiCillo lampoons the objectification of women while staking his usual
battle between idealism and cynicism, as represented by Joe, who abandons
his principles to land an agent (Kathleen Turner) and winds up working in
a Madonna video.
The superb supporting cast also includes Steve Buscemi, who reprises his
Living in Oblivion role as a harried director; Showgirls' Elizabeth
Berkley as Madonna's bleached-blonde body double; and comic Dave Chappelle
(from Con Air), who provides the film's most hilarious moment as a
Holocaust revisionist.
Ultimately, The Real Blonde isn't as shallow as its characters, but it's
not as deep as it desires to be.
The Bottom Line: Search for reality can be ellusive.
Well...that is the article. I am going to try to see it if I have time.
Everyone watch Steve on SNL!!!!!!!!
Jennifer >^..^<
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:27:02 -0700 (MST)
From: Herb Wolfe
Subject: Steve vids
I was at Best Buy tonight and decided to wander through the video section
and see how many Steve movies they had. I picked up a widescreen
collector's set of Fargo with a snow globe where Steve? is being put into
the wood chipper. It includes letterbox VHS with exclusive outtakes and
theatrical trailer. Cost: 29.99. I also found a Special Collector's Edition
of Pulp Fiction with bonus scenes hosted by Quentin Tarantino. Cost: 9.99.
I also picked up Happy Gilmore, even though Steve's role is very minor, as
I happen to like the movie. cost: 9.99.
I also picked up From Duck til Dawn, not sure whether Steve was in it or
not, and only just now finding out that he's not in it. Anyone know where
there's a concise list of movies he's appeared in? I know Marni has a nice
list, but that's a bit more detailed than I want.
I also was tempted to pick up a double CD set containing the sound tracks
to Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, with a bonus 20 page booklet containing
interviews with Quentin, however, I suspect I'm getting the Resevoir Dogs
soundtrack for my birthday this month, so I decided to wait.
- -herb
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:32:04 -0700 (MST)
From: Puckawuck
Subject: Sex Appeal/Wrestling/Real Blonde
Hi, everyone!
Haven't been on line for a couple of days and found oodles of mail from you
guys! After spending an hour reading it, I just had to respond to a couple of
comments:
>It's interesting to me that there are a lot of female fans of Buscemi on the
>list. I was just wondering why that is, obviously not sex-appeal, sorry
>Steve, becuase, let's face it, he's funny-looking.
What do you mean, "obviously not sex appeal?" YES, SEX APPEAL!!! Look,
I'm attracted to Steve Buscemi and not Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise and I make
no apologies. Wouldn't the world be boring if there were only "attractive"
people and "non-attractive" people? Yes, I respect Steve's acting
abilities, find him funny, etc. etc. But I just find him attractive
because, well, I do. Think about it, Anthony Hopkins is a great actor, and
Billy Crystal is really funny, but...sexy? I don't think so. Steve's got
something else. And whatever it is, it drives me nuts.
>I was wondering why some people have interest mainly foir sex appeal,
>but for Steve the females seem to have a type of Woody Allen affection,
>interesting, I'll note this in my book"females and their
>infatuations"(kidding).
WOODY ALLEN???? ICK!!! Now there's someone who's talented and funny and not
even the least bit sexy.
>Did anyone else know that Steve wrestled in high school? His wrestling
>move on Andy was hilarious!
Yeah, I saw his high school wrestling pictures on The Steve Buscemi Worship
Page. You need to check out that site if you haven't yet. There are some
awesome pictures there.
>Does anyone know if The Real Blonde is going into general release?
It played for a week at a city about an hour away from me, then
disappeared into the wild blue yonder. I'm hoping one of the local video
stores will have maybe one copy for rent at some point. I've given up
hope of it appearing at the multiplexes real soon.
Steve on Conan was awesome. I would love to see him as a vampire.
Hopefully someone saw the show and is writing a part for him! Wonder how
Anne Rice would have reacted to Steve as Lestat? hmmmm. But he does have
a point about the "creepy guy" thing. Wonder how much he was joking and
how much he was serious.
SNL should be a riot -- Steve's one of those guys who cracks me up as
soon as he shows up on the screen. Others are John Lovitz and Christopher
Walken. So even though the skits will probably be lame, I'll be laughing
my butt off. And I'll be thinking of the rest of you laughing your butts
off too.
Well, gotta go--- this pyramid on my head is getting pretty darn heavy
(am I a devoted fan or what?)
Later,
Puck
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:30:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Marni Hager
Subject: Re: Happy Gilmore
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Herb Wolfe wrote:
> I also picked up Happy Gilmore, even though Steve's role is very minor, as
> I happen to like the movie. cost: 9.99.
>
Steve has a role in Happy Gilmore?!? I've never heard anything about this
until now. Have you watched this yet, and seen him yourself?
I ask because I only know of him in Billy Madison, The Wedding Singer, and
Airheads with Sandler.
> I also picked up From Duck til Dawn, not sure whether Steve was in it or
> not, and only just now finding out that he's not in it. Anyone know where
> there's a concise list of movies he's appeared in? I know Marni has a nice
> list, but that's a bit more detailed than I want.
>
You can always try the Internet Movie Database at
http://us.imdb.com/search and enter Steve's name.
Marni
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:41:53 -0700 (MST)
From: Herb Wolfe
Subject: Re: Happy Gilmore
>On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Herb Wolfe wrote:
>> I also picked up Happy Gilmore, even though Steve's role is very minor, as
>> I happen to like the movie. cost: 9.99.
>>
At 10:30 PM 4/3/98 -0800, Marni Hager wrote:
>Steve has a role in Happy Gilmore?!? I've never heard anything about this
>until now. Have you watched this yet, and seen him yourself?
yes and no.
>I ask because I only know of him in Billy Madison, The Wedding Singer, and
>Airheads with Sandler.
I got Happy Gilmore confused with Billy Madison. My bad. That's what I get
for shopping without a list.
>You can always try the Internet Movie Database at
>http://us.imdb.com/search and enter Steve's name.
will do.
- -herb
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:42:37 -0700 (MST)
From: Ville Forss
Subject: Re: Steve vids
On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Herb Wolfe wrote:
> I also picked up Happy Gilmore, even though Steve's role is very minor, as
> I happen to like the movie. cost: 9.99.
Happy Gilmore? Surely Steve is not in that one? Are you confusing it with
Billy Madison or some other movie?
> I also picked up From Duck til Dawn, not sure whether Steve was in it or
> not, and only just now finding out that he's not in it. Anyone know where
> there's a concise list of movies he's appeared in? I know Marni has a nice
> list, but that's a bit more detailed than I want.
Go to http://us.imdb.com/search and do a search on Steve Buscemi, you
should have a pretty complete list of his films and tv-appearances.
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 00:05:20 -0700 (MST)
From: Kelly
Subject: Re:STEVE SEXY?
Just thought I'd add my 2 cents to this discussion. Uh, sorry to
disappoint you but, Steve is a VERY SEXY man. How dare you compare him
with Woody Allen!!! Steve has the most beautiful eyes and the
loveliest lips that I've ever seen!!! And his ears are cute too! But
- -- I have noticed that more young women dig him than the women his own
age seem to. I don't know what else to say -- I just love him!
Later,
Kelly
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:32:24 -0700 (MST)
From: ED HELLMAN
Subject: The Real Blonde
Hi there!
Last night I saw Primary Colors (John Travolta still rocks) and for the first
time ever, I saw a prevue for THE REAL BLONDE! I didn't even realize what
it was until the end of the prevue!!!! I am kicking myself becasue I
didn't look for Steve!!!! I also don't remember when it said it would be
released (I know it is out in some places) or if it was an add for a movie
that is already out (They do that I think sometimes). I wanna know if I
can see it here in Baltimore!!!!! Well...Actually the movie only looks
okay...But I loved Living In Oblivion. Doesn't steve play Nick Reve in
The Real Blonde too?
Anyway, to change the subject, my VCR was set wrong and I missed Conan.
:(((((((((((((((((( (if I had that many mouths, I would look like that)
but I am staying up TONIGHT to see Steve so even if I can't tape it, I
sure HAVE TO SEE IT!!!!! I am nervous because I am possibly going over to
someone's house for dinner and I am afraid it will run late..Arg....Ah
well, I will have a good time there and see steve and I am rambling so I
must say bye for now.
BYE!
Ed
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:33:19 -0700 (MST)
From: Froggie
Subject: Re: Sex Appeal
> Truthfully, who here on the list would stop him on the street and say:
> "I would love to go out with you because you are the hottest man alive!"
> if he was not an actor? If you had never seen him before in your life?
Truthfully, I would. No, really! But then I also have really weird
taste....
Froggie
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:34:19 -0700 (MST)
From: mwdallam
Subject: sex god of the nineties
Regarding all of this "sexy Steve" stuff:
My interest in Steve has always been his uniqueness in films. Something
about him rivets my attention in a way that no other actor does. But alas,
even I have succumbed, and it has ultimately turned into a crush on him
too. He has beautiful hands.
I was at a wedding a few months back, talking to an old friend about
movies. I was trying to describe who Steve was, and just as I was saying,
"He was in Fargo, and Living in Oblivion, and--" another woman came over
and interrupted. "Oh my god," she said, "are you talking about Steve
Buscemi, sex god of the '90's?" It was classic. Ever since then, I've
always mentally bestowed that title upon him.
Marie
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 16:44:17 -0700 (MST)
From: "dlm"
Subject: Re: The Real Blonde
| for the first time ever, I saw a prevue for THE REAL BLONDE! I didn't
| even realize what it was until the end of the prevue!!!! I am kicking
| myself becasue I didn't look for Steve!!!!
I didn't see Steve in The Real Blonde preview.
Mary
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 19:35:26 -0700 (MST)
From: RRoux2
Subject: ? for everbody
OK everybody,
I have a question for the ladies and for the gentlemen:
LADIES
Which movie do you think Steve looked cutest in?
GENTLEMEN
In which movie would you most like to be Steve (rather Steve's character)?
I personally can't choose. It's tied amongst Reservoir Dogs, Ed and His Dead
Mother, Things To Do In Denver When You're Dead (he looks like a mobster and I
LOVE mobsters!), Parting Glances, In the Soup, and Twenty Bucks.
Tricia
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 19:36:03 -0700 (MST)
From: Kelly
Subject: Re: The Real Blonde
Hey --
I just saw THE REAL BLONDE a couple hours ago. It was pretty good, but
it was no LIO. Steve's part was very small; he was only in about 3
scenes. He was cute though.
Later,
Kelly
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 20:50:35 -0700 (MST)
From: Cats Kats
Subject: Re: ? for everbody
In response to the Q about what movie Steve looked the cutest in:
my first pick: Parting Glances remember when he is drinking that Coke and
he sees that ghost? He looked so cute b/c he looked so YOUNG!!!!
my second pick: Living in Oblivion: long hair and some facial hair....need I
say more?
My third pick: Resevoir Dogs: I just love his clothing...;)
Jennifer
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 20:50:37 -0700 (MST)
From: Kelly
Subject: Re: ? for everybody
Mmmmmmmmmmmm......
I don't think I can pick just one either. He looks good in most of his
roles. So ... here's a list of some of them in no particular order.
PARTING GLANCES
BILLY BATHGATE
FARGO
SLAVES OF NY
LIVING IN OBLIVION
THE REAL BLONDE
IN THE SOUP
DESPERADO
TREES LOUNGE
God, there are so many movies that he was cute in! I won't bore you
and list them all, but these are some of them.
Check ya later,
Kelly
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 20:50:43 -0700 (MST)
From: Cats Kats
Subject: Q of the day
Here is a Q of the day challenge should anyone choose to take it on:
do you think that Steve's career will take off (even more) with his
appearances on the conan show and SNL? Will he ever be offered the role of a
vampire???
Think long and hard........then tell us your thoughts!!!
Jennifer
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 23:01:55 -0700 (MST)
From: Cagney3169
Subject: Re: ? for everbody
Tricia wrote:
> I have a question for the ladies and for the gentlemen:
> LADIES
> Which movie do you think Steve looked cutest in?
Hi Tricia I would have to say that Steve looked his best in Reservoir Dogs
and Trees Lounge. I'm torn between those two.
Mickey
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 03:23:18 -0600 (MDT)
From: Recently12
Subject: Steve on SNL
Wow Steve was hilarious! I feel bad for him though, because his voice cracked
at the beginning. That was one of the funniest SNL's i've seen for a while.
And hey... Steve was dancing a bit, wasn't he? I loved his intro to the
show. I was so glad he did Fargo because it's my favorite movie "Hey I'm in a
woodchipper and there's blood everywhere! AHH" Also the first bit he did was
funny too, where he was the mad hatter or whatever. Too bad I missed Conan on
Thursay. My stupid VCR didnt record.
paul
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 03:23:58 -0600 (MDT)
From: Froggie
Subject: Re: ? for everbody
RRoux2 wrote:
> LADIES
> Which movie do you think Steve looked cutest in?
I would have to say Airheads. I think this was the first movie I saw
Steve in. I love it when guys have long hair, and I love musicians =P
Froggie
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:02:22 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Kym"
Subject: Re: ? for everbody
>LADIES
>Which movie do you think Steve looked cutest in?
It's a tie for me between Ed and His Dead Mother and In The Soup. But he
looked pretty cute in Con Air, too.
Kym
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:48:41 -0700
From: "Kym"
Subject: Re: Steve on SNL
>Wow Steve was hilarious! I feel bad for him though, because his voice
>cracked at the beginning. That was one of the funniest SNL's i've seen
>for a while. And hey... Steve was dancing a bit, wasn't he? I loved his
>intro to the show. I was so glad he did Fargo because it's my favorite
>movie "Hey I'm in a woodchipper and there's blood everywhere! AHH" Also
>the first bit he did was funny too, where he was the mad hatter or
>whatever. Too bad I missed Conan on Thursay. My stupid VCR didnt
>record.
The interview on Conan was pretty good. I haven't watched all of SNL yet,
though I did see the intro and the Mad Hatter sketch, which I thought was
sorta goofy. I think that Steve could have done a lot better and I'm hoping
that the rest of the show reflects that. Of course, it's my opinion that
SNL has sucked for many, many years...so you can't really blame Steve. :)
Kym
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:04:05 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Kym"
Subject: Re: Sex Appeal/Wrestling/Real Blonde
>Well, gotta go--- this pyramid on my head is getting pretty darn heavy
>(am I a devoted fan or what?)
I about fell off of my couch when I heard Steve talking about his father
and that pyramid on his head.
Anyone have any pictures of Steve and his dad? I'd love to see some more
family shots.
Kym
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:06:25 -0600 (MDT)
From: Kelly
Subject: Re: Q of the day/ SNL
I would hope that Steve's recent TV appearances made the "money"
people want to cast him in a lot of GOOD movies. But, who knows? We
can only hope. I would LOVE to see him in a real romantic lead, and as
a regular kind of guy. Ooooh ... and, if he ever gets cast as a
vampire I hope it'll be one of those sexy, erotic vampire roles.
He was great on SNL! I especially liked the Judge Judy sketch -- his
"hip-hop" dancing was hilarious! I also liked the "Goth Talk" sketch
when he started dancing in the background. I guess I just like to so
him dance!
Check ya later,
Kelly
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:06:55 -0600 (MDT)
From: RRoux2
Subject: Mr. Pink/Buddy Holly Waiter
Hi everyone,
Does anybody else think it's ironic that Steve played a guy who wouldn't tip
the waitresses in Reservoir Dogs and then played a waiter in Pulp Fiction.
Maybe the Buddy Holly waiter is Mr. Pink after he got out of jail. Now he
knows what it's like!!!!
Tricia
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:07:39 -0600 (MDT)
From: RRoux2
Subject: Steve in car window
Hi, it's me again,
When Steve is holding the car door open shooting at the cops (or maybe it's
when he gets in the car, not sure) in Reservoir Dogs, the name "Steve" is
reflected in the car window from a sign that is across the street. Creepy.
Tricia
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:56:02 -0600 (MDT)
From: Puckawuck
Subject: SNL
Just had to pass along a couple of comments about Saturday's SNL with Steve.
If you haven't seen it yet, you may want to skip this or save it til later.
With regard to the opening monologue, I used to do improv professionally and I
found Steve's mockery of it hilarious. You have no idea the kind of stupid
stuff we used to get sometimes. And we ALL wanted to yell out, "what kind of
stupid suggestion is that?" -- but of course we didn't.
With regard to "Goth Talk" -- PAN DOWN! PAN DOWN! :-)
With regard to "Alice in Wonderland" -- stupid sketch, but kudos to Steve for
holding his own with John Hurt.
"Judge Judy" was the highlight of the entire evening, I thought. Steve
gettin' jiggy with it -- classic. (although they could have found more
flattering pants)
But you gotta give him credit, he took a lot of poorly written material and
made it far more entertaining than it should have been. The "Job Interview"
and "Stuff We Made" sketches would have been unwatchable without Steve.
And what was up with that Truck Museum thing? Steve was cute, but was there
a point?
One more thing, I would absolutely KILL for any one of those pictures they
showed between commercials. All of them looked SO hot! Perhaps there's a way
to transfer them from video to paper or something. Or perhaps SNL has copies.
Anyone have any ideas on this?
Thanks for listening,
Puck
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:56:56 -0600 (MDT)
From: Puckawuck
Subject: ? for everybody
With regard to Tricia's query:
"LADIES
Which movie do you think Steve looked cutest in?"
It's a toss up between Con Air and The Big Lebowski. (Con Air has a slight
edge.) Ed and His Dead Mother, Twenty Bucks, and In the Soup are also in
the running.
Puck
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:28:50 -0600 (MDT)
From: Donna
Subject: Steve's SNL appearance
Wow, Steve was great on SNL!!! He is just too cute!!! And how about those
photograph's SNL took of him. They were fantastic! Steve look's great in a
suit and tie. I'd love to get my hand's on those picture's. What a babe! I
thought it was sweet that he said goodnight to his son Lucian at the end of
the show. Does Anyone know if he's going to be on any other show's coming up?
Let me know. Thanks
Donna
P.S. Steve, your the best dancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:20:16 -0600 (MDT)
From: Herb Wolfe
Subject: Steve on SNL
I have to agree that Steve took poor material and made it good/tolerable.
- -herb
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:04:02 -0600 (MDT)
From: Ville Forss
Subject: Re: Good Movies vs. Indies
On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Kelly wrote:
> I would hope that Steve's recent TV appearances made the "money"
> people want to cast him in a lot of GOOD movies. But, who knows? We
Since when have the "money people" done good movies? :)
Even though roles in big movies like Armageddon and Con Air pay more
and help him fame-wise, I'd rather see Steve doing more indie-movies
and smaller movies in general. And simply because Steve just won't ever
get a big role in a big movie, he's not that kind of an actor.
So, rather than seeing him in ten small roles per year, I'd like to
see him in a few leading roles in good movies.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:13:29 -0600 (MDT)
From: "dlm"
Subject: Re: SNL
| One more thing, I would absolutely KILL for any one of those pictures
| they showed between commercials. All of them looked SO hot! Perhaps
| there's a way to transfer them from video to paper or something. Or
| perhaps SNL has copies.
I LOVE those pics ! It was kinda like look at Steve Buscemi the Male Sex
Symbol of the '90's.
Mary
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:13:52 -0600 (MDT)
From: RRoux2
Subject: Louis et Frank?
Hi everyone,
Does anybody know anything about "Louis et Frank"? Is it coming out or
what's Steve's part like or even what is the movie about? Thanks.
Tricia
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:51:42 -0600 (MDT)
From: RRoux2
Subject: Who is Mike?
Hi everybody,
I loved those photos of Steve to (that they showed between commercials on
SNL). I loved the one of him in the suit, you know, the one right before the
Deep Thoughts segment. Does anyone know why on some of the shirts he was
wearing it said the name Mike on the chest? You have to look hard but the
pictures where he is sitting down, there are like two shirts that say Mike.
My boyfriend noticed it and it has been bugging me ever since. I know he has
a brother named Michael. Oh, and did you notice that the grey shirt with
stripes on it in one of the pictures was the same one he wore on Conan
O'Brien?
Tricia
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:52:03 -0600 (MDT)
From: RRoux2
Subject: Steve's middle name
Hi there!
Does anybody know Steve's middle name or even just his middle initial?
Just curious.
Tricia
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:01:55 -0600 (MDT)
From: RRoux2
Subject: Steve the family man
Hi, me again,
Remember the segment where Steve kept calling the guy John even though his
name was Michael? (on SNL I mean) Steve has a brother named Michael and a
brother named John. I wonder if the names were intentional. If so, that is
so cool. Steve seems like such a family man. He has done movies with his
son, wife, brother, and father. What a cool guy!!!
Tricia
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:54:49 -0600 (MDT)
From: Sherri
Subject: Steve
I think Steve was cutest in Con Air. If anyone gets pics from saturday
night live I would like some please. I do not like SNL but loved steve in
it!!! Hope he gets more opportunities to do tv and movies now that he has
been on SNL. Hope and pray.
Steve is AWESOME!!
Kate
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:18:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marni Hager
Subject: Re: ? for everbody
On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, RRoux2 wrote:
> Which movie do you think Steve looked cutest in?
>
Steve was probably best in Trees Lounge. I have a few shots on my wall
that I drool over. Basically, if his hair is anywhere between Tommy
Basilio (in Trees Lounge) and Mr. Pink, he's good looking. Then it comes
down to the clothes he is wearing. At least, that's how I see it.
Marni
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:20:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marni Hager
Subject: Re: photos with family members
On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Kym wrote:
> Anyone have any pictures of Steve and his dad? I'd love to see some more
> family shots.
>
I don't have any pictures of Steve and his dad. However, I did manage to
find one of Steve and his mother in the school's library. I'm going to
have to hunt it down and scan it into my computer before I leave here.
Anyone else seen anything else rare like this?
Marni
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:36:25 -0600 (MDT)
From: Marni Hager
Subject: Videos for sale
Hi Everyone,
I was home for Spring Break this past week, and went to Tower Outlet since
I had some gift certificates for them. (I also went into Tower Video and
Tower Records.) While in 2 of the stores, I found a number of videos that
I thought some of you might be interested in.
Tower Outlet had about 4 copies of Somebody to Love for about $10 plus
tax. They also had about 4 copies of Trees Lounge for about $13 plus tax.
The only catch with these films is that the boxes are cut up and the tapes
are pre-viewed. Essentially, these are the left-overs after they are no
longer new releases. This is where the phrase "buyer beware" comes into
play.
Tower Video had the special release of Fargo with the snowglobe for $34
plus tax. I believe I saw around 25 boxes of these.
Marni
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:22:57 -0600 (MDT)
From: Marni Hager
Subject: New Q of the Day
I've been extremely interested in Steve as a person, as well as what
others think of him. (Of course, I do scoff at those that think he's
merely a weasel.)
So, my question of the day is:
If you could have Steve in any capacity of your life (ie- brother, father,
boyfriend, best friend, etc.), what would it be and why?
Marni
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:47:31 -0600 (MDT)
From: Froggie
Subject: Re: New Q of the Day
Marni Hager wrote:
> If you could have Steve in any capacity of your life (ie- brother, father,
> boyfriend, best friend, etc.), what would it be and why?
I would say boyfriend, because I think Steve is the sexiest thing
alive. Other than looks-wise, I don't know what he's like, but I
imagine him to be the sensative type with a great sense of humor =) Ok,
face it, I would want him to be Donny from the Big Lebowski =)
Froggie
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