Why on earth would a Society trying to prove the existence of Paranormal Activity try and put forward theories that destroy the Phenomena they endeavor so hard to prove in the first place. Well any scientist will try all avenues and set up a basis to compare any future results from so why should we behave any differently. This Society does not jump to conclusions and we are learning all the time, we understand that every light in the sky is not a UFO and every gust of wind a spirit passing us by.

We all know that some individuals love to create hoaxes and catch out the experts, well if we know what can be used in a hoax then we are more readily prepared to see the truth when it represents itself.

This page has been created due to our recent visit to Chingle Hall, we do not wish to offend other investigators but we owe it to ourselves and the Science we study to try and show what else can be creating the results we sometimes stumble upon.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we do not question the integratory of other investigators, but it helps to see the BIG PICTURE.

Those that are members of our smart group discussion forum may be aware of the controversy surrounding the pictures of Orb's during Ghost Hunts, and even though I still believe that SOME may still be pictures of genuine Paranormal Phenomena I think that most can be easily explained. We will go in depth into this field at a later date but for now be entertained???

This picture was taken,just like all the rest were on this site by a digital Fuji MX2700, a 2.3 million pixel camera, with flash.

As you can see this is an average picture of an ORB, some believe that these are pictures of Ghosts, which I used to go along with and you will hear me say so on previous pages that they can indeed be pictures of Spirits???

The problem was we also thought that they could also be caused by particles straying into the line of the Flash Gun and being captured, even though as I pointed out to Darron, at least they are still pictures of things you can't normally see ( just like Ghosts)???

Here you can see some members having a look around outside the building, and yet again perfect ORB ???

I took this very close up to the glass of the rear window at Chingle and you can see one ORB roughly center frame and one at the bottom slightly to the left of center, due to the placing of the camera I thought these might show Orbs on the other side of the glass which may prove they aren't dust particles as anything behind the glass would behave differently than an object with direct access to the glare of the flash. I must say that this may still be the case????

I looked very carefully at these pictures and when I got home I wanted to try and recreate the particles that may cause this affect, so at first I used a spray can ( very small atomized droplets as could be suspended in the air???

As you can see the particles are too small to directly reflect the flash, but do they remind you of another form of picture sometimes captured???, but that can wait for later

Well well, loads of Ghosts in my daughters bedroom, as you can see these are definite ORB pics that appear listed in so may web sites from around the world and are taken at face value as Ghost pictures??

I'm sorry to say but its Talcum Powder, this would give the kind of particle size that would stay afloat in the air and yet could not be seen with the naked eye.

To me this proves what 99% of all ORB pictures are, if anyone can show me an ORB pic taken without flash then I will have to reconsider but for now I'm convinced at the results of my own experiment.

I have also seen footage of orbs when an infra red light source with a video camera has been used, but remember a dust particle will reflect infra red light just as easily as visible light, maybe if two camera's taking pictures from different angles photographed the same Orb that may be harder to explain, as all dust particles reflect light from different surfaces in a different manner???

One things I believe in is never to knock another belief, if a Society states that ORB's are Spirits and they believe that then that is up to them. We in BPRS do not try to preach, only advise but to be honest it would take allot to make me change my mind about ORB pics. The atmosphere of this planet is dirty and dusty at the best of times so maybe its best to take pictures after a good storm has passed as at least when its wet it prevents dust and pollen flying around ( but watch out for moisture in the air and rain drops?)

How many times have you seen strange energy type entities moving across a picture that had not been seen at the time of image capture, there is almost a board full in Chingle itself???

Yes it is true that they couldn't be seen at the time of exposure, as when you are looking through a view finder you cant see your camera strap????

This was pointed out by the Great DAV himself, its nice to see members not taking things at face value, on many of these types of picture you can actually make out the fabric of the strap itself if you look closely - also its strange how the pics always curve exactly to the parameters of the strap of the camera????

One good way to test for the probability of contaminates being present in the air is to use a high powered light, one of the half million candle power ones. Use this to check out area's you are planning to photograph first and they will reflect loose particles in the air, or just fire your flash without using film first. Also if you enter a dusty room, give the air time to settle and then try for a picture.

I mentioned earlier that I would like to see a few pics taken without flash that show Orbs, well I have been sent a few- what do you think?????

The camera has a relativley good pixel capability, standing at 2.3 Mega Pixels. The settings are however rather limited, and were set to ( to what I remember ) :

Trees / Plants , those in Photo only , however, no pollen apparent, as in no flower dropping or whatelse...

I have other shots indoors which show the orbs. Interestingly in the room with the window closest to the outside orbs !!

Take a look at the picture which depicts a set table by the window . I have re-copied the pic indicating 2 parts of the photo to look at carefully. The photo "DSCF0001.jpg" is copied and edited as to "showme.jpg". There is something to see behind the chair and a small (very), on the curtain.

I have , since those photos , not taken other pics, however, am convinced that on taking a pic there, any evening, will get another orb. I am also convinced , that wherever else I take a pic, I will not have any orbs on photo.

Just to prove a point to myself, on the 2nd or 3rd day , I must have taken arround 30 or 40 other oics, all over the place, indoors, outdoors, etc.. and they were all clean pics.

Maybe imagination (and probabily is ), however, I was told by a friend of what he saw as a face in the orb ( by the letter box, pic DSCF0002.jpg )..

These are the details that were sent to me, I realise that I have entered it onto the debunking page, and I do not mean to hint they are fakes, that is up to you to decide - its just that we have discussed Orbs on here and I did ask to see some without flash and that is what has been delivered.

I leave the other pictures here as well, some were taken with flash as is evident and one shows a nice lense flare/reflection.


	British Paranormal Research Society \| home Debunking and the issue of ORBS \| Sky Watches Debunking and the issue of ORBS Why on earth would a Society trying to prove the existence of Paranormal Activity try and put forward theories that destroy the Phenomena they endeavor so hard to prove in the first place. Well any scientist will try all avenues and set up a basis to compare any future results from so why should we behave any differently. This Society does not jump to conclusions and we are learning all the time, we understand that every light in the sky is not a UFO and every gust of wind a spirit passing us by. We all know that some individuals love to create hoaxes and catch out the experts, well if we know what can be used in a hoax then we are more readily prepared to see the truth when it represents itself. This page has been created due to our recent visit to Chingle Hall, we do not wish to offend other investigators but we owe it to ourselves and the Science we study to try and show what else can be creating the results we sometimes stumble upon. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we do not question the integratory of other investigators, but it helps to see the BIG PICTURE. Those that are members of our smart group discussion forum may be aware of the controversy surrounding the pictures of Orb's during Ghost Hunts, and even though I still believe that SOME may still be pictures of genuine Paranormal Phenomena I think that most can be easily explained. We will go in depth into this field at a later date but for now be entertained??? All these pictures at first were taken at the Chingle Hall visit on the 12th May 2001 This picture was taken,just like all the rest were on this site by a digital Fuji MX2700, a 2.3 million pixel camera, with flash. As you can see this is an average picture of an ORB, some believe that these are pictures of Ghosts, which I used to go along with and you will hear me say so on previous pages that they can indeed be pictures of Spirits??? The problem was we also thought that they could also be caused by particles straying into the line of the Flash Gun and being captured, even though as I pointed out to Darron, at least they are still pictures of things you can't normally see ( just like Ghosts)??? Here you can see some members having a look around outside the building, and yet again perfect ORB ??? I took this very close up to the glass of the rear window at Chingle and you can see one ORB roughly center frame and one at the bottom slightly to the left of center, due to the placing of the camera I thought these might show Orbs on the other side of the glass which may prove they aren't dust particles as anything behind the glass would behave differently than an object with direct access to the glare of the flash. I must say that this may still be the case???? I looked very carefully at these pictures and when I got home I wanted to try and recreate the particles that may cause this affect, so at first I used a spray can ( very small atomized droplets as could be suspended in the air??? As you can see the particles are too small to directly reflect the flash, but do they remind you of another form of picture sometimes captured???, but that can wait for later Well well, loads of Ghosts in my daughters bedroom, as you can see these are definite ORB pics that appear listed in so may web sites from around the world and are taken at face value as Ghost pictures?? I'm sorry to say but its Talcum Powder, this would give the kind of particle size that would stay afloat in the air and yet could not be seen with the naked eye. To me this proves what 99% of all ORB pictures are, if anyone can show me an ORB pic taken without flash then I will have to reconsider but for now I'm convinced at the results of my own experiment. I have also seen footage of orbs when an infra red light source with a video camera has been used, but remember a dust particle will reflect infra red light just as easily as visible light, maybe if two camera's taking pictures from different angles photographed the same Orb that may be harder to explain, as all dust particles reflect light from different surfaces in a different manner??? One things I believe in is never to knock another belief, if a Society states that ORB's are Spirits and they believe that then that is up to them. We in BPRS do not try to preach, only advise but to be honest it would take allot to make me change my mind about ORB pics. The atmosphere of this planet is dirty and dusty at the best of times so maybe its best to take pictures after a good storm has passed as at least when its wet it prevents dust and pollen flying around ( but watch out for moisture in the air and rain drops?) Other types of pictures taken allegedly showing Paranormal Phenomena How many times have you seen strange energy type entities moving across a picture that had not been seen at the time of image capture, there is almost a board full in Chingle itself??? Yes it is true that they couldn't be seen at the time of exposure, as when you are looking through a view finder you cant see your camera strap???? This was pointed out by the Great DAV himself, its nice to see members not taking things at face value, on many of these types of picture you can actually make out the fabric of the strap itself if you look closely - also its strange how the pics always curve exactly to the parameters of the strap of the camera???? One good way to test for the probability of contaminates being present in the air is to use a high powered light, one of the half million candle power ones. Use this to check out area's you are planning to photograph first and they will reflect loose particles in the air, or just fire your flash without using film first. Also if you enter a dusty room, give the air time to settle and then try for a picture. I mentioned earlier that I would like to see a few pics taken without flash that show Orbs, well I have been sent a few- what do you think????? Here goes all the details I can possibly provide with .. The photos were taken on a FUJIFILM Digital Camera MX-2700. The camera has a relativley good pixel capability, standing at 2.3 Mega Pixels. The settings are however rather limited, and were set to ( to what I remember ) : Full size ( 1800 x 1200 ), Quality : Fine ( from 3 settings of Normal, Basic or Fine ) Sharpness on 3/4 setting. Media. FUJIFILM SmartMedia 8MB card. Formatted before shots.. The photos were taken on different evenings ( after I get home from work ), The weather was approximately always 15 - 18 C. Dry weather conditions, ( Germany , Frankfurt area ) Wind - None or minimal . Trees / Plants , those in Photo only , however, no pollen apparent, as in no flower dropping or whatelse... I have other shots indoors which show the orbs. Interestingly in the room with the window closest to the outside orbs !! Take a look at the picture which depicts a set table by the window . I have re-copied the pic indicating 2 parts of the photo to look at carefully. The photo "DSCF0001.jpg" is copied and edited as to "showme.jpg". There is something to see behind the chair and a small (very), on the curtain. I have , since those photos , not taken other pics, however, am convinced that on taking a pic there, any evening, will get another orb. I am also convinced , that wherever else I take a pic, I will not have any orbs on photo. Just to prove a point to myself, on the 2nd or 3rd day , I must have taken arround 30 or 40 other oics, all over the place, indoors, outdoors, etc.. and they were all clean pics. Take a look at one of the pics,. It has a streak of white ( under the lamp near the front door )... hmm.. Maybe imagination (and probabily is ), however, I was told by a friend of what he saw as a face in the orb ( by the letter box, pic DSCF0002.jpg ).. Keep in touch and .. Thanks .. Thomas These are the details that were sent to me, I realise that I have entered it onto the debunking page, and I do not mean to hint they are fakes, that is up to you to decide - its just that we have discussed Orbs on here and I did ask to see some without flash and that is what has been delivered. I leave the other pictures here as well, some were taken with flash as is evident and one shows a nice lense flare/reflection.