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Phoenix, your post started me thinking ... well first I just have to read the book for myself :) ... I have read some similar descriptions somewhere about a year ago ... ah yes, it was an article on the web called Tibetan Buddhist Teachings on Death and Rebirth by Lama Ole Nydhal. You can read the article by clicking here. Here's a little excerpt: "Here I would like to give an example from my own direct experience. It was when the sixteenth Karmapa died in 1981. A year and a half before that in 1980 he had told me on which day he was going to die. I met him on the solstice in Colorado in America. He told us to come to him on the first day of the eleventh month next year. He said that we could also bring our friends. So we came out to seek him in the Himalayas. He wanted to die in the West where scientists could examine his death processes. Five days after his death his body was still warm and supple. He was then put into the meditation position surrounded by a lot of butter lamps. He stayed there for forty five days until the19 of December when he was taken from his meditation seat. He had made his body very small. They put him in a box with a window that you could look in. Most people didn't want to look but I did because I knew that I would have to tell the story. I knew it would be my job. His head was smaller but not much smaller but his whole body was like that of a child. This man had been bigger than me. He was a massive big boned Tibetan from a warrior tribe, a big strong man. When he was burnt the next day there were outer signs, a double rainbow around the sun, which is very unusual in Sikkim. There was also an enormous eagle that kept turning high up around the burning place. When his heart came out of the oven it rolled down to the students. There were many other things that happened that were very unusual. " The whole article is beautifully written and its descriptions of what happens at the moment of death (especially during "conscious dying") I found quite illuminating. Well worth a read. Oh, and I'll transcribe some of the Tenzin Palmo interview if I get some free time. Thanks again for your book review! One more book to put on my list ... :)
"Here I would like to give an example from my own direct experience. It was when the sixteenth Karmapa died in 1981. A year and a half before that in 1980 he had told me on which day he was going to die. I met him on the solstice in Colorado in America. He told us to come to him on the first day of the eleventh month next year. He said that we could also bring our friends. So we came out to seek him in the Himalayas. He wanted to die in the West where scientists could examine his death processes. Five days after his death his body was still warm and supple. He was then put into the meditation position surrounded by a lot of butter lamps. He stayed there for forty five days until the19 of December when he was taken from his meditation seat. He had made his body very small. They put him in a box with a window that you could look in. Most people didn't want to look but I did because I knew that I would have to tell the story. I knew it would be my job. His head was smaller but not much smaller but his whole body was like that of a child. This man had been bigger than me. He was a massive big boned Tibetan from a warrior tribe, a big strong man. When he was burnt the next day there were outer signs, a double rainbow around the sun, which is very unusual in Sikkim. There was also an enormous eagle that kept turning high up around the burning place. When his heart came out of the oven it rolled down to the students. There were many other things that happened that were very unusual. " The whole article is beautifully written and its descriptions of what happens at the moment of death (especially during "conscious dying") I found quite illuminating. Well worth a read. Oh, and I'll transcribe some of the Tenzin Palmo interview if I get some free time. Thanks again for your book review! One more book to put on my list ... :)
Thanks again for your book review! One more book to put on my list ... :)
Thanks again for your thoughts. I was just having a bit of fun with that post. :) Beautiful phrase "As I understand it"! If only more people would preface their opinions/statements/pronouncements with those words. Thanks again.
Beautiful phrase "As I understand it"! If only more people would preface their opinions/statements/pronouncements with those words.
Thanks again.
jyes main ,the groove is in the heart !!!! Good to hear it !! I was coming across that way and then came across ur last post. Getting giggy with it is where it`s @. Sent peronal Angels and Dad as well as my self been sending powerfulful wrays full of purity and intent. Hey I live the same fear , if I may call it that ?? BUT ....................... jyes don`t have a big butt to boot! lol. Be thankful 4 that mainnnnnn and draw from that strength. A man once said "ROCK ON " A group once said " I`M IN THE POWER " da da da da !!!!!!!!! and I said 2 or more gathered here for the same purpose, well no God said that . I say " GIRL POWER " got my drift ..... I send it in love P
In the midst of reading How to Know God. Can't put the book down.
Geoff, thanks for the amusing "doubletalk". Although, I much preferred your graphic of the nail and hammer. I think this illustrates the old Zen philosophy that, given two contradictory thoughts, even compelling ones, the Master cannot help but notice the beauty of a flower that catches his eye, or prefer to bathe in the light of a sunset rather than be caught up in the absurd duality of thoughts which are not really thoughts, but concepts to be clung to. Attached to... In any case, Krishnamurti is not asking you to hold the other thought in your mind. That would be bad advice. He is just making an observation about some effects which have been "observed". In a sense, I hope this goes to answer your question too, Maz. As I understand it, one is not meant to focus on the opposite of attachment, which is "detachment" in order to achieve detachment, as that would amount to an attachment in itself. No. The idea is simply to observe oneself in the act known as "mindfulness", expressed by others as "living in the moment". If we simply observe what we are experiencing in the moment, our thoughts, our emotions, our excitement, our sadness, our burst of adrenalin, whatever is happening in the moment, every moment, without judging that experience, after a while detachment will come about naturally. The trick is to stay in the moment long enough. To see what is before you, not what you want, what you hanker after, what you fantasise about, all of which are essentially put across the screen of your minds vision as thoughts, which you have become attached to through emotions such as "fear", "guilt", "pleasure". As far as Independence day goes, I hope you all have a great weekend, and I'll leave you with this thought by Ashleigh Brilliant. I'll start thinking independentlyas soon as I see everyone else doing it. I bow. I embrace. Namaste'.
I think this illustrates the old Zen philosophy that, given two contradictory thoughts, even compelling ones, the Master cannot help but notice the beauty of a flower that catches his eye, or prefer to bathe in the light of a sunset rather than be caught up in the absurd duality of thoughts which are not really thoughts, but concepts to be clung to. Attached to...
In any case, Krishnamurti is not asking you to hold the other thought in your mind. That would be bad advice. He is just making an observation about some effects which have been "observed". In a sense, I hope this goes to answer your question too, Maz. As I understand it, one is not meant to focus on the opposite of attachment, which is "detachment" in order to achieve detachment, as that would amount to an attachment in itself. No. The idea is simply to observe oneself in the act known as "mindfulness", expressed by others as "living in the moment". If we simply observe what we are experiencing in the moment, our thoughts, our emotions, our excitement, our sadness, our burst of adrenalin, whatever is happening in the moment, every moment, without judging that experience, after a while detachment will come about naturally. The trick is to stay in the moment long enough. To see what is before you, not what you want, what you hanker after, what you fantasise about, all of which are essentially put across the screen of your minds vision as thoughts, which you have become attached to through emotions such as "fear", "guilt", "pleasure".
As far as Independence day goes, I hope you all have a great weekend, and I'll leave you with this thought by Ashleigh Brilliant.
I bow. I embrace. Namaste'.
Phoenix, Based on your rave reviews of the book "Cave in the Snow"I have just ordered it from Chapters.ca. I'll Let you know how it affected me after I read it. It sounds like exactly what you need at this moment. Sylvia, I am moving to Salt Spring on July 30th. Keep your promise to visit .....and Happy Canada Day!
Geoff...I'm almost through with 'Cave in the Snow' and what a fascinating read...It has opened up another part of my 'self'..I'm beginning to understand much more about the path to enlightenment, meditation with much more depth and understaning...and the fac that it's written from a females point of view. Someon had asked about relationships and she mentions that one mustn't need the other person to maintain a balance...it's knowing oneself and being one with another...tough to do ...I mean it's interesting enough to learn about yourself as the days pass by and strive for oneness and some kind of perfection within our spirit...What I was facinated by was how she made reference to those who were truly enlightened spirits..Upon their death, and waiting cremation, within a week the body would actually disappear...there would be nothing left but hair and nails...this is called the rainbow body....there was another who passed and while waiting for cremation, the body had shrunken down to a mere 18 inches!! (See what a practice of mediation can do for us all??!!) Anyway, last night after I read this I woke up and thought to myself..I wonder if this is what happed to Christ?? When they went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been turned away from the entrance, all that was left was the shroud!! However, I am not one to know the bible well enough to know how enlightened Christ actually was...perhaps he too knew the answer of mediation and upon his passing became a 'rainbow body"..Any thoughts on this would be very interesting to discuss. Geoff..thank you so much for mentioning this book...I only have a few chapters left..I believe that I should order the book just to keep for future reference..It's terrific.Well, almost time to leave the shop so off I go....xP>S> Geoff...the interview on the radio must have been very thought provoking...if you can give some excepts, I'd really appreciate it...I know that in the book she's quoted as saying that (sic) her spirituality is very private to her....so I'd be curious to know what she spoke about....thanks..+
Well, almost time to leave the shop so off I go....xP>S> Geoff...the interview on the radio must have been very thought provoking...if you can give some excepts, I'd really appreciate it...I know that in the book she's quoted as saying that (sic) her spirituality is very private to her....so I'd be curious to know what she spoke about....thanks..+
"Emotions" are thoughts! We can trace any emotion to a "thought" of some kind that "we" are choosing to give our "energy" to."Free" of worldly thinking it's interesting to try and discover what particular "archetype" is behind us. A sincere devotion to learning about our "Selves" calls for "work" and following a "method" towards that end.For our society, I've found that the breath meditation practice is best as it can be used anywhere, anytime----all the time.If nothing else, it's very relaxing.Namaste'
"Free" of worldly thinking it's interesting to try and discover what particular "archetype" is behind us.
A sincere devotion to learning about our "Selves" calls for "work" and following a "method" towards that end.
For our society, I've found that the breath meditation practice is best as it can be used anywhere, anytime----all the time.
If nothing else, it's very relaxing.
Namaste'
"passion".........."energy". "When I know who I am, we are One. When "I" don't know who "I" am,"I" serve You."Hanuman To me, this is why ALL lineages "point" to a "Higher Source" (power) that the "ego" can direct it's "attention" to.It's first recognizing that this "source" is OUTSIDE our finite minds, which is just a hodge-podge of conditioning since we were about two years old. A bunch of do's and don't's, etc.Becoming "united" with our source, we are "free" to direct that "energy" wherever "we" chose.Recognizing that we are attached to some-thing is a real gift in that the attachment means something to our ego ("self"-worth) in some fashion. Carol's posting of Deepak's statement of our "destiny" is right on as far as "I'm" concerned. "We" are manifesting, we're HERE NOW physically, so we can accept the theory of reincarnation, or Christianity's "one shot", but in either case the lesson's we're to learn THIS time are HERE NOW.Come to think of it (L), we don't HAVE to learn a damn thing if "we" choose not to. It's a miserable "way" to go though. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Soooooooooooooooooo!Namaste'
When "I" don't know who "I" am,"I" serve You."
Hanuman
To me, this is why ALL lineages "point" to a "Higher Source" (power) that the "ego" can direct it's "attention" to.
It's first recognizing that this "source" is OUTSIDE our finite minds, which is just a hodge-podge of conditioning since we were about two years old. A bunch of do's and don't's, etc.
Becoming "united" with our source, we are "free" to direct that "energy" wherever "we" chose.
Recognizing that we are attached to some-thing is a real gift in that the attachment means something to our ego ("self"-worth) in some fashion.
Carol's posting of Deepak's statement of our "destiny" is right on as far as "I'm" concerned.
"We" are manifesting, we're HERE NOW physically, so we can accept the theory of reincarnation, or Christianity's "one shot", but in either case the lesson's we're to learn THIS time are HERE NOW.
Come to think of it (L), we don't HAVE to learn a damn thing if "we" choose not to. It's a miserable "way" to go though.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Soooooooooooooooooo!
PLEASE do something about the red...red...page on your site..It is frustrating to try to get dates/info about workshops when the printing and background cannot be read easily. The sidebar on right is just a big blur.....Please ..just an uncutesy black on white print so it can be read!!! ......Had to write at this addy as this is only place that had any sign of email addy..GJD
I am the thinker, the thought, the word and the flesh. I am the field, the wave, and the particle. Deepak Chopra Everyday Immortality www.chopra.com
I am the field, the wave, and the particle.
Deepak Chopra Everyday Immortality www.chopra.com
~Wednesday, June 28, 2000 ~ Q: What is the ultimate destiny of human beings? Does a person have a free will or choice in the matter? A: Our ultimate destiny is to rediscover the nature of our true reality. At that time we have free will, before that, we are always prisoners of our conditioning. www.chopra.com
Q: What is the ultimate destiny of human beings? Does a person have a free will or choice in the matter?
A: Our ultimate destiny is to rediscover the nature of our true reality. At that time we have free will, before that, we are always prisoners of our conditioning.
www.chopra.com
~Thursday, June 29, 2000 ~ Q: Is it our societal mandate or a divine wish that we choose one partner for life? If we are to grow and evolve does it not make more sense to grow past some relationships and into others? A: It is probably a little of both. The emotional turmoil caused by a relationship ending is generally something we would all wish to avoid and so, finding a partner for life makes the most sense. As with anything, we do the best we can. We should be responsible enough to choose a partner with whom we feel we can spend the rest of our life but, if that doesn't happen, we try again. Every relationship offers us the opportunity to learn and grow so nothing is ever wasted but we shouldn't take our relationships too lightly and feel we can just hop from one to the other as the fancy takes us. www.chopra.com
Q: Is it our societal mandate or a divine wish that we choose one partner for life? If we are to grow and evolve does it not make more sense to grow past some relationships and into others?
A: It is probably a little of both. The emotional turmoil caused by a relationship ending is generally something we would all wish to avoid and so, finding a partner for life makes the most sense. As with anything, we do the best we can. We should be responsible enough to choose a partner with whom we feel we can spend the rest of our life but, if that doesn't happen, we try again. Every relationship offers us the opportunity to learn and grow so nothing is ever wasted but we shouldn't take our relationships too lightly and feel we can just hop from one to the other as the fancy takes us.
Hi! Sil! :)
it's ok to love passionately. it is not until the moment that one must let go that attachement even needs to be considered.....
Hadi: your quote from Krishnamurti has got me thinking alot about my current situation.....in fact I feel rather uncomfortable about myself at the moment. My fiance lives in another state and I miss him terribly. Physically and intellectually I am strong. Its emotionally I've always had problems. I certainly dont like the thought that my passion is attached to a cause. And yes, it does seem that it is causing me sorrow.....it is definitely food for thought. My main problem is trying to become unattached, or staying unattached, as is most people's problem, I guess. I understand this quote on an intellectual level, but emotionally it is very, very hard to feel this way. How do we learn to achieve this? Anybody's feelings or thoughts on this one would be muchly appreciated. Thanx.........maz
Curiously, after posting that last comment, I'm reminded of a line form Cosmos. "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe". I suppose if one is giving thanks to beings, one would have to start with the one that created the universe ... :)
Hi Phoenix, I'm glad you're enjoying the book. You have a number of beings to thank. :) A friend of mine rang me up the day that Tenzin Palmo was to be interviewed here on local radio. I taped the interview then decided to see if there was any info on the web. That's when I posted the link. I have only read the excerpts at the website but would like to get hold of the book. Tenzin is giving a public lecture here in Melbourne, Australia in a few days time and I plan to go along and see what she has to say about her experieces. For those who missed the link, here it is again - Cave in the Snow Namaste
I'm glad you're enjoying the book. You have a number of beings to thank. :)
A friend of mine rang me up the day that Tenzin Palmo was to be interviewed here on local radio. I taped the interview then decided to see if there was any info on the web. That's when I posted the link.
I have only read the excerpts at the website but would like to get hold of the book. Tenzin is giving a public lecture here in Melbourne, Australia in a few days time and I plan to go along and see what she has to say about her experieces.
For those who missed the link, here it is again - Cave in the Snow
Namaste
Hadi, I enjoyed your Krishnamurti quote. However, it does raise a rather interesting question. If we hold that thought in our consciousness are we not becoming attached to the idea of being unattached? :) This conundrum reminds me of the idea of doublethink from the novel 1984. Any George Orwell fans out there? Doublethink: Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory belief in one's mind simultaneously and accepting both of them. The Party intellectual knows in which direction his memories must be altered; he therefore knows he is playing tricks with reality; but by the exercise of doublethink he also satisfies himself that reality is not being violated. The process has to be conscious, or it would not be carried out with sufficient precision, but it also has to be unconscious, or it would bring with it a feeling of falsity and hence of guilt. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For, by using the word, one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink, one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely ...
I enjoyed your Krishnamurti quote. However, it does raise a rather interesting question. If we hold that thought in our consciousness are we not becoming attached to the idea of being unattached? :)
This conundrum reminds me of the idea of doublethink from the novel 1984. Any George Orwell fans out there?
Doublethink: Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory belief in one's mind simultaneously and accepting both of them. The Party intellectual knows in which direction his memories must be altered; he therefore knows he is playing tricks with reality; but by the exercise of doublethink he also satisfies himself that reality is not being violated. The process has to be conscious, or it would not be carried out with sufficient precision, but it also has to be unconscious, or it would bring with it a feeling of falsity and hence of guilt. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For, by using the word, one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink, one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely ...
Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory belief in one's mind simultaneously and accepting both of them. The Party intellectual knows in which direction his memories must be altered; he therefore knows he is playing tricks with reality; but by the exercise of doublethink he also satisfies himself that reality is not being violated. The process has to be conscious, or it would not be carried out with sufficient precision, but it also has to be unconscious, or it would bring with it a feeling of falsity and hence of guilt. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For, by using the word, one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink, one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely ...
"Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition" Namaste'
"Many are called; few are chosen".I've been wondering about that statement for some time now. Especially since following along here over the years and my involvment in "pointing" others to "Masters" and their literature.For some I think the "fear" they'll have to quit doing some of their bullshit keeps them from going all the way. That's primarily due to what they know of "Christianity".That very fact alone may cause them to miss the "whole" picture, but with others, I wonder what keeps them from completing them-selves. For instance, a group of Theosophists meets every Thursday who are "up" on all the latest information "out there"........they've studied, discussed, evaluated, and chewed up about every "lineage", method, "teacher", etc., there is, and yet not one of them seems to "know".I realize all words, written or spoken, are just for the "ego" (intellect), but you'd think that after enough listening and reading, the "idea" that YOU are missing something might register.Still brings me back to the original question doesn't it? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Soooooooooooooooooo! Namaste'
I've been wondering about that statement for some time now. Especially since following along here over the years and my involvment in "pointing" others to "Masters" and their literature.
For some I think the "fear" they'll have to quit doing some of their bullshit keeps them from going all the way. That's primarily due to what they know of "Christianity".
That very fact alone may cause them to miss the "whole" picture, but with others, I wonder what keeps them from completing them-selves.
For instance, a group of Theosophists meets every Thursday who are "up" on all the latest information "out there"........they've studied, discussed, evaluated, and chewed up about every "lineage", method, "teacher", etc., there is, and yet not one of them seems to "know".
I realize all words, written or spoken, are just for the "ego" (intellect), but you'd think that after enough listening and reading, the "idea" that YOU are missing something might register.
Still brings me back to the original question doesn't it?
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Soooooooooooooooooo!
You have told about the god, heaven and all about being as you could!
Good Morning..I cannot remember who mentioned the book "Cave in the Snow" ..Tenzin Palmo's quest for enlightment....it sparked an interest and I was able to get it from my local library...I'm half way through it and find it absolutely fasinating...whoever mentioned this incredible story..thank you...I can't put it down..I was able to meditate and do my little ritual...and I believe that I feel a hundred percent better...I had an opportunity to met with his daughter last night...I was able to see his ashes...It's so hard to believe that what I saw was what was left of 'him'. I had never seen ashes before...never mind ashes of someone that I cared for so deeply..Have to run..busy now at the shop...
I was able to meditate and do my little ritual...and I believe that I feel a hundred percent better...I had an opportunity to met with his daughter last night...I was able to see his ashes...It's so hard to believe that what I saw was what was left of 'him'. I had never seen ashes before...never mind ashes of someone that I cared for so deeply..Have to run..busy now at the shop...
I to would like to wish everyone a safe and insane Independence Day Celebration...Thank God for the boys at Concord-Lexington Bridge, and their refusal to cooperate with the authorities...My ancestor Richard Allen, an English immigrant, fought for the Revolution, as a private in the Virginia Militia. God bless Lady Liberty and Freedom. Down with Monarchists! Namaste'
I'd like to wish all a happy, safe, and sane Holdiday.It's good we have these diversions, so we can keep some sort of "spiritual oneness" going, as well as get us out of our-selves for a little while and spur the economy on. Namaste'
It's good we have these diversions, so we can keep some sort of "spiritual oneness" going, as well as get us out of our-selves for a little while and spur the economy on.
When I first heard about the latest scientific discovery, I was a little bemused at what all the fuss was about. I mean how hard can it be to map a gnome. We have dozens in our garden and they don't really move about all that much.
He blinked his eyes but could not open them again. There was only an infinite, intelligent light. This light was exploding outwardly from itself in all directions, yet it was not moving in any space and was without any time. It did not begin or end but was present, moving. He said: "What is this?" And the wind said: "Behold yourself". And he exploded into being as countless universes and worlds. It was the fierceness and calmness of energy, measureless, boundless. It was beyond joy, beyond word, beyond any possible expression. He was the fury of beauty creating itself without intention, the light becoming sound and mind and density. He was the possibility of action and the action of possibility. He was all things on all levels, yet there were no levels and there were no things. He saw the same light explode and become an ocean, a tree, a cosmos, and knew it was also himself. He saw the whole immensity of human knowledge hovering in the spaceless, a single dot arising from the light amidst the fierceness of moving, changing love. And he beheld his nature as humanity and knew each one of them was himself, his mind, a fleeting vision of his own expanding love. But they did not know themselves as him, as his own mind expanding, learning of itself as man, as body, as knowledge, feeling and idea. They were confused in their growth, feeling bound by what their eyes could see. They could not comprehend the blissful joy of light creating them without a single care. They were him, his own love, and knew it not. And so, his compassion dwelt among them for a season, healing himself both with and without words. His touch, his gaze, the freedom of his unintended love healed the fires around them, and they knew it not , for they were seeking, hoping, searching for the light which was themselves. He smiled at himself through their eyes, the eyes of love moving towards itself..... That is just a small excerpt from "The Madman" at the Poetry Shack. Click here to read the rest.
He blinked his eyes but could not open them again. There was only an infinite, intelligent light. This light was exploding outwardly from itself in all directions, yet it was not moving in any space and was without any time. It did not begin or end but was present, moving.
He said: "What is this?"
And the wind said: "Behold yourself".
And he exploded into being as countless universes and worlds. It was the fierceness and calmness of energy, measureless, boundless. It was beyond joy, beyond word, beyond any possible expression. He was the fury of beauty creating itself without intention, the light becoming sound and mind and density. He was the possibility of action and the action of possibility. He was all things on all levels, yet there were no levels and there were no things.
He saw the same light explode and become an ocean, a tree, a cosmos, and knew it was also himself. He saw the whole immensity of human knowledge hovering in the spaceless, a single dot arising from the light amidst the fierceness of moving, changing love.
And he beheld his nature as humanity and knew each one of them was himself, his mind, a fleeting vision of his own expanding love. But they did not know themselves as him, as his own mind expanding, learning of itself as man, as body, as knowledge, feeling and idea. They were confused in their growth, feeling bound by what their eyes could see. They could not comprehend the blissful joy of light creating them without a single care. They were him, his own love, and knew it not.
And so, his compassion dwelt among them for a season, healing himself both with and without words. His touch, his gaze, the freedom of his unintended love healed the fires around them, and they knew it not , for they were seeking, hoping, searching for the light which was themselves. He smiled at himself through their eyes, the eyes of love moving towards itself.....
That is just a small excerpt from "The Madman" at the Poetry Shack. Click here to read the rest.
Click here to read the rest.
...and such is the dance of the quanta. Namaste'
Hi Silvia, I wish you the best I hope all your visions come true and that your family is safe and well.Remember one thing when you are in doubt, the universe does not make mistakes. Embrace what the universe offers you it may be better than you think.Your pure intentions are powerful.Hi Carol I had to repost your post because it was deep and beautiful.On Tuesday, June 27, 2000, carol (Chopra's Sutras)@205.188.197.183 said: The forces of Nature - heat, light, electricity, magnetism, strong and weak forces, and gravity - are the mind of Nature. The material universe is the body of Nature. Since I and the Unified Field are One in our ground state, I am the witness in the Unified Field, my thoughts or mind are just a different manifestation of the same forces of Nature that we call heat, light, electricity, magnetism, and gravity. My body is just a different manifestation of the same body that I call the Universe. Deepak Chopra Everyday Immortality www.chopra.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Carol I had to repost your post because it was deep and beautiful.
On Tuesday, June 27, 2000, carol (Chopra's Sutras)@205.188.197.183 said:
The forces of Nature - heat, light, electricity, magnetism, strong and weak forces, and gravity - are the mind of Nature. The material universe is the body of Nature.
Since I and the Unified Field are One in our ground state, I am the witness in the Unified Field, my thoughts or mind are just a different manifestation of the same forces of Nature that we call heat, light, electricity, magnetism, and gravity. My body is just a different manifestation of the same body that I call the Universe.
Deepak Chopra Everyday Immortality www.chopra.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ooops, I forgot. That last quote... J KRISHNAMURTIThe Book of Life and not a genome in sight.
The Book of Life
and not a genome in sight.
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