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Sounds like a good title for a book, "My previous life as a big, yellow dog". ;) I can relate to what you said about the Unity State too. I just naturally assumed it would be permanent. Silly me! Reminds me of a line from a Talking Heads song, You may say to yourself, 'Well, how did I get here?'
I can relate to what you said about the Unity State too. I just naturally assumed it would be permanent. Silly me! Reminds me of a line from a Talking Heads song, You may say to yourself, 'Well, how did I get here?'
Glad you enjoyed the site. I haven't checked it out in much depth myself as yet, so thanks for the highlights. Been busy transcribing radio interviews and contemplating my existence. :)
Phoenix, this is your lucky day. I found myself with a couple of hours to kill. So, instead of contemplating my existence, I dashed off a transcript of the Tenzin Palmo radio interview which I mentioned yesterday. You can find it by clicking here. On the subject of Jesus' death, have you heard of a cloth called the "Shroud of Turin"? Many years ago, I read a book about the first scientific examination of the images on this cloth. Can't remember the title of the book. You can read about the shroud at the official website - Shroud of Turin website I do remember thinking that if it IS a forgery, it's a pretty amazing one. The wounds are shown as being through the wrists and not the hands as most artists used to portray it. Many other details and oddities makes me wonder ...
You can find it by clicking here.
On the subject of Jesus' death, have you heard of a cloth called the "Shroud of Turin"? Many years ago, I read a book about the first scientific examination of the images on this cloth. Can't remember the title of the book. You can read about the shroud at the official website - Shroud of Turin website
I do remember thinking that if it IS a forgery, it's a pretty amazing one. The wounds are shown as being through the wrists and not the hands as most artists used to portray it. Many other details and oddities makes me wonder ...
Yes, I'm glad I asked! And I thought I had had an interesting week. :) Never been robbed at gunpoint - it's one of those situations you almost can't imagine yourself being in or how you'd react. Sounds like you handled it sublimely. I see it in your stars ... next week will be less eventful. :)
And I thought I had had an interesting week. :)
Never been robbed at gunpoint - it's one of those situations you almost can't imagine yourself being in or how you'd react. Sounds like you handled it sublimely.
I see it in your stars ... next week will be less eventful. :)
I'm wondering Peggy. Did you feel the urge to laugh after you'd read what you'd written about your disastrous weekend? I sometimes write down the terrible things that have happened and am moved to laughter, not hysteria either. I think (like they say in Spain), the only thing missing is for a dog to piss on my leg, then I hear the gushing sound and that's that. Can't take the disasters seriously anymore. I think, "What the heck! Have got too much to do to sit here and reminisce." It is such a gorgeous night. Am going out to water the garden and listen to crickets.
I sometimes write down the terrible things that have happened and am moved to laughter, not hysteria either. I think (like they say in Spain), the only thing missing is for a dog to piss on my leg, then I hear the gushing sound and that's that. Can't take the disasters seriously anymore. I think, "What the heck! Have got too much to do to sit here and reminisce."
It is such a gorgeous night. Am going out to water the garden and listen to crickets.
I've read The Seven Secrets of Spiritual Success and been enormously moved, but I have recently (one month ago!) had a knee injury in a freak bicycle accident and feel a bit "handicapped" at the moment. The doctors say I'll be back on my feet and I'm in pain but optimistic; at the same time, I'm going to get some crutches!
Hi, Geoff! I've had an enormously interesting week and found out some things about myself that I didn't know. Five individually stressing things happened to me last week. I had an argument with a family member and realized that almost my entire relationship with him has been passive-aggressive. Want to try to change that relationship to one of mutual respect and assertiveness. But if the relationship can't change, at least I will. I was robbed at gun point. I wasn't overwhelmed with fear. I even treated him with courtesy and he gave me my purse back. The police caught him after a high speed chase around town with cars and a helicopter. But where is my anger now that it is very appropriate? The funeral home called about arranging services for Dave. I thought he was dying and hadn't told me. For fifteen minutes I sweated it out by myself at home. When I found out that he wasn't dying after all, I wanted to kill him for forgetting to tell me about the plans. But I learned that without Dave, I feel excavated. What happened to all of the independence that I swore to in Concord? The process of actually moving furniture from my mother's residence to mine is beginning. I'd rather picture her with it than own it myself. I had to have respiration therapy for an asmatic attack. That means that I'm internalizing things. I've had respiratory problems before but they were associated with bad colds. And the kicker is that this is that my psychiatrist in on vacation! AAARRRRGGGGGHHHH! Now, Geoff, aren't you glad you asked? ;-)
I was robbed at gun point. I wasn't overwhelmed with fear. I even treated him with courtesy and he gave me my purse back. The police caught him after a high speed chase around town with cars and a helicopter. But where is my anger now that it is very appropriate?
The funeral home called about arranging services for Dave. I thought he was dying and hadn't told me. For fifteen minutes I sweated it out by myself at home. When I found out that he wasn't dying after all, I wanted to kill him for forgetting to tell me about the plans. But I learned that without Dave, I feel excavated. What happened to all of the independence that I swore to in Concord?
The process of actually moving furniture from my mother's residence to mine is beginning. I'd rather picture her with it than own it myself.
I had to have respiration therapy for an asmatic attack. That means that I'm internalizing things. I've had respiratory problems before but they were associated with bad colds.
And the kicker is that this is that my psychiatrist in on vacation! AAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!
Now, Geoff, aren't you glad you asked? ;-)
Peggy, touche' (L)
Geoff, Thanks for the link "tenzinpalmo" which was most interesting and at times quite humorous. "We try to find out why all our friends are unhappy and our enemies are happy. We can't really understand these things. Any time we try to talk to them they walk away and when we sit in a chair they come and sit on us and so on... Then we really understand 'Oh I must be dead.'" Since I experience this from time to time I must conclude "Oh. I must be dead". And.. "I know at least three cases in my own experience, for some reason always with big yellow dogs, where they have come right up to me, put their paws on my chest, looked into my eyes and mentally said "What happened? Suddenly the light went out and now I'm in this state." Ha ha! That's about how I felt when I came out of the Unity State, the first time, and found myself in this strange, rubbery, furless human body! "Oh, I'm in one of these again!" hehe.. Everyone looked the same to me for about a week. You know, like a species of upright Molerats. I believe my previous incarnations were furry and alien, but then again, maybe I was that yellow dog! ; )
"We try to find out why all our friends are unhappy and our enemies are happy. We can't really understand these things. Any time we try to talk to them they walk away and when we sit in a chair they come and sit on us and so on... Then we really understand 'Oh I must be dead.'"
Since I experience this from time to time I must conclude "Oh. I must be dead". And..
"I know at least three cases in my own experience, for some reason always with big yellow dogs, where they have come right up to me, put their paws on my chest, looked into my eyes and mentally said "What happened? Suddenly the light went out and now I'm in this state."
Ha ha! That's about how I felt when I came out of the Unity State, the first time, and found myself in this strange, rubbery, furless human body! "Oh, I'm in one of these again!" hehe.. Everyone looked the same to me for about a week. You know, like a species of upright Molerats. I believe my previous incarnations were furry and alien, but then again, maybe I was that yellow dog!
; )
Lift the veil then only you will meet the beloved. Says Kabir: Listen good brothers! The eternal sound is beating. RG
Don’t be afraid to play through life. Retire from heavy thoughts. Take everything with lighthearted wisdom. We are heavy because we think we must make an impression, gain something, be somebody. In spite of what society tells you, you need not be anybody at all in the eyes of men. The only genuine need you have is to be a real human being. Try to see this, try to feel it with all your heart. Then you will know what it means to make the world your plaything. VERNON HOWARD
VERNON HOWARD
Hi Peggy, How are you?
How are you?
Richard, I went to the bridge at Concord a couple of summers ago. Just wasn't prepared for the overwhelming emotions that I experienced. Renewed my own vows of independence elsewhere in the village at the graves of Thoreau and Emerson.
T.O., I just spent some time catching up on posts. You have solved a great mystery for me. I always thought that it was "Many are cold but few are frozen." ;-)
www.tenzinpalmo.com
Phoenix, your post started me thinking ... well first I just have to read the book for myself :) ... I have read some similar descriptions somewhere about a year ago ... ah yes, it was an article on the web called Tibetan Buddhist Teachings on Death and Rebirth by Lama Ole Nydhal. You can read the article by clicking here. Here's a little excerpt: "Here I would like to give an example from my own direct experience. It was when the sixteenth Karmapa died in 1981. A year and a half before that in 1980 he had told me on which day he was going to die. I met him on the solstice in Colorado in America. He told us to come to him on the first day of the eleventh month next year. He said that we could also bring our friends. So we came out to seek him in the Himalayas. He wanted to die in the West where scientists could examine his death processes. Five days after his death his body was still warm and supple. He was then put into the meditation position surrounded by a lot of butter lamps. He stayed there for forty five days until the19 of December when he was taken from his meditation seat. He had made his body very small. They put him in a box with a window that you could look in. Most people didn't want to look but I did because I knew that I would have to tell the story. I knew it would be my job. His head was smaller but not much smaller but his whole body was like that of a child. This man had been bigger than me. He was a massive big boned Tibetan from a warrior tribe, a big strong man. When he was burnt the next day there were outer signs, a double rainbow around the sun, which is very unusual in Sikkim. There was also an enormous eagle that kept turning high up around the burning place. When his heart came out of the oven it rolled down to the students. There were many other things that happened that were very unusual. " The whole article is beautifully written and its descriptions of what happens at the moment of death (especially during "conscious dying") I found quite illuminating. Well worth a read. Oh, and I'll transcribe some of the Tenzin Palmo interview if I get some free time. Thanks again for your book review! One more book to put on my list ... :)
"Here I would like to give an example from my own direct experience. It was when the sixteenth Karmapa died in 1981. A year and a half before that in 1980 he had told me on which day he was going to die. I met him on the solstice in Colorado in America. He told us to come to him on the first day of the eleventh month next year. He said that we could also bring our friends. So we came out to seek him in the Himalayas. He wanted to die in the West where scientists could examine his death processes. Five days after his death his body was still warm and supple. He was then put into the meditation position surrounded by a lot of butter lamps. He stayed there for forty five days until the19 of December when he was taken from his meditation seat. He had made his body very small. They put him in a box with a window that you could look in. Most people didn't want to look but I did because I knew that I would have to tell the story. I knew it would be my job. His head was smaller but not much smaller but his whole body was like that of a child. This man had been bigger than me. He was a massive big boned Tibetan from a warrior tribe, a big strong man. When he was burnt the next day there were outer signs, a double rainbow around the sun, which is very unusual in Sikkim. There was also an enormous eagle that kept turning high up around the burning place. When his heart came out of the oven it rolled down to the students. There were many other things that happened that were very unusual. " The whole article is beautifully written and its descriptions of what happens at the moment of death (especially during "conscious dying") I found quite illuminating. Well worth a read. Oh, and I'll transcribe some of the Tenzin Palmo interview if I get some free time. Thanks again for your book review! One more book to put on my list ... :)
Thanks again for your book review! One more book to put on my list ... :)
Thanks again for your thoughts. I was just having a bit of fun with that post. :) Beautiful phrase "As I understand it"! If only more people would preface their opinions/statements/pronouncements with those words. Thanks again.
Beautiful phrase "As I understand it"! If only more people would preface their opinions/statements/pronouncements with those words.
Thanks again.
jyes main ,the groove is in the heart !!!! Good to hear it !! I was coming across that way and then came across ur last post. Getting giggy with it is where it`s @. Sent peronal Angels and Dad as well as my self been sending powerfulful wrays full of purity and intent. Hey I live the same fear , if I may call it that ?? BUT ....................... jyes don`t have a big butt to boot! lol. Be thankful 4 that mainnnnnn and draw from that strength. A man once said "ROCK ON " A group once said " I`M IN THE POWER " da da da da !!!!!!!!! and I said 2 or more gathered here for the same purpose, well no God said that . I say " GIRL POWER " got my drift ..... I send it in love P
In the midst of reading How to Know God. Can't put the book down.
Geoff, thanks for the amusing "doubletalk". Although, I much preferred your graphic of the nail and hammer. I think this illustrates the old Zen philosophy that, given two contradictory thoughts, even compelling ones, the Master cannot help but notice the beauty of a flower that catches his eye, or prefer to bathe in the light of a sunset rather than be caught up in the absurd duality of thoughts which are not really thoughts, but concepts to be clung to. Attached to... In any case, Krishnamurti is not asking you to hold the other thought in your mind. That would be bad advice. He is just making an observation about some effects which have been "observed". In a sense, I hope this goes to answer your question too, Maz. As I understand it, one is not meant to focus on the opposite of attachment, which is "detachment" in order to achieve detachment, as that would amount to an attachment in itself. No. The idea is simply to observe oneself in the act known as "mindfulness", expressed by others as "living in the moment". If we simply observe what we are experiencing in the moment, our thoughts, our emotions, our excitement, our sadness, our burst of adrenalin, whatever is happening in the moment, every moment, without judging that experience, after a while detachment will come about naturally. The trick is to stay in the moment long enough. To see what is before you, not what you want, what you hanker after, what you fantasise about, all of which are essentially put across the screen of your minds vision as thoughts, which you have become attached to through emotions such as "fear", "guilt", "pleasure". As far as Independence day goes, I hope you all have a great weekend, and I'll leave you with this thought by Ashleigh Brilliant. I'll start thinking independentlyas soon as I see everyone else doing it. I bow. I embrace. Namaste'.
I think this illustrates the old Zen philosophy that, given two contradictory thoughts, even compelling ones, the Master cannot help but notice the beauty of a flower that catches his eye, or prefer to bathe in the light of a sunset rather than be caught up in the absurd duality of thoughts which are not really thoughts, but concepts to be clung to. Attached to...
In any case, Krishnamurti is not asking you to hold the other thought in your mind. That would be bad advice. He is just making an observation about some effects which have been "observed". In a sense, I hope this goes to answer your question too, Maz. As I understand it, one is not meant to focus on the opposite of attachment, which is "detachment" in order to achieve detachment, as that would amount to an attachment in itself. No. The idea is simply to observe oneself in the act known as "mindfulness", expressed by others as "living in the moment". If we simply observe what we are experiencing in the moment, our thoughts, our emotions, our excitement, our sadness, our burst of adrenalin, whatever is happening in the moment, every moment, without judging that experience, after a while detachment will come about naturally. The trick is to stay in the moment long enough. To see what is before you, not what you want, what you hanker after, what you fantasise about, all of which are essentially put across the screen of your minds vision as thoughts, which you have become attached to through emotions such as "fear", "guilt", "pleasure".
As far as Independence day goes, I hope you all have a great weekend, and I'll leave you with this thought by Ashleigh Brilliant.
I bow. I embrace. Namaste'.
Phoenix, Based on your rave reviews of the book "Cave in the Snow"I have just ordered it from Chapters.ca. I'll Let you know how it affected me after I read it. It sounds like exactly what you need at this moment. Sylvia, I am moving to Salt Spring on July 30th. Keep your promise to visit .....and Happy Canada Day!
Geoff...I'm almost through with 'Cave in the Snow' and what a fascinating read...It has opened up another part of my 'self'..I'm beginning to understand much more about the path to enlightenment, meditation with much more depth and understaning...and the fac that it's written from a females point of view. Someon had asked about relationships and she mentions that one mustn't need the other person to maintain a balance...it's knowing oneself and being one with another...tough to do ...I mean it's interesting enough to learn about yourself as the days pass by and strive for oneness and some kind of perfection within our spirit...What I was facinated by was how she made reference to those who were truly enlightened spirits..Upon their death, and waiting cremation, within a week the body would actually disappear...there would be nothing left but hair and nails...this is called the rainbow body....there was another who passed and while waiting for cremation, the body had shrunken down to a mere 18 inches!! (See what a practice of mediation can do for us all??!!) Anyway, last night after I read this I woke up and thought to myself..I wonder if this is what happed to Christ?? When they went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been turned away from the entrance, all that was left was the shroud!! However, I am not one to know the bible well enough to know how enlightened Christ actually was...perhaps he too knew the answer of mediation and upon his passing became a 'rainbow body"..Any thoughts on this would be very interesting to discuss. Geoff..thank you so much for mentioning this book...I only have a few chapters left..I believe that I should order the book just to keep for future reference..It's terrific.Well, almost time to leave the shop so off I go....xP>S> Geoff...the interview on the radio must have been very thought provoking...if you can give some excepts, I'd really appreciate it...I know that in the book she's quoted as saying that (sic) her spirituality is very private to her....so I'd be curious to know what she spoke about....thanks..+
Well, almost time to leave the shop so off I go....xP>S> Geoff...the interview on the radio must have been very thought provoking...if you can give some excepts, I'd really appreciate it...I know that in the book she's quoted as saying that (sic) her spirituality is very private to her....so I'd be curious to know what she spoke about....thanks..+
"Emotions" are thoughts! We can trace any emotion to a "thought" of some kind that "we" are choosing to give our "energy" to."Free" of worldly thinking it's interesting to try and discover what particular "archetype" is behind us. A sincere devotion to learning about our "Selves" calls for "work" and following a "method" towards that end.For our society, I've found that the breath meditation practice is best as it can be used anywhere, anytime----all the time.If nothing else, it's very relaxing.Namaste'
"Free" of worldly thinking it's interesting to try and discover what particular "archetype" is behind us.
A sincere devotion to learning about our "Selves" calls for "work" and following a "method" towards that end.
For our society, I've found that the breath meditation practice is best as it can be used anywhere, anytime----all the time.
If nothing else, it's very relaxing.
Namaste'
"passion".........."energy". "When I know who I am, we are One. When "I" don't know who "I" am,"I" serve You."Hanuman To me, this is why ALL lineages "point" to a "Higher Source" (power) that the "ego" can direct it's "attention" to.It's first recognizing that this "source" is OUTSIDE our finite minds, which is just a hodge-podge of conditioning since we were about two years old. A bunch of do's and don't's, etc.Becoming "united" with our source, we are "free" to direct that "energy" wherever "we" chose.Recognizing that we are attached to some-thing is a real gift in that the attachment means something to our ego ("self"-worth) in some fashion. Carol's posting of Deepak's statement of our "destiny" is right on as far as "I'm" concerned. "We" are manifesting, we're HERE NOW physically, so we can accept the theory of reincarnation, or Christianity's "one shot", but in either case the lesson's we're to learn THIS time are HERE NOW.Come to think of it (L), we don't HAVE to learn a damn thing if "we" choose not to. It's a miserable "way" to go though. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Soooooooooooooooooo!Namaste'
When "I" don't know who "I" am,"I" serve You."
Hanuman
To me, this is why ALL lineages "point" to a "Higher Source" (power) that the "ego" can direct it's "attention" to.
It's first recognizing that this "source" is OUTSIDE our finite minds, which is just a hodge-podge of conditioning since we were about two years old. A bunch of do's and don't's, etc.
Becoming "united" with our source, we are "free" to direct that "energy" wherever "we" chose.
Recognizing that we are attached to some-thing is a real gift in that the attachment means something to our ego ("self"-worth) in some fashion.
Carol's posting of Deepak's statement of our "destiny" is right on as far as "I'm" concerned.
"We" are manifesting, we're HERE NOW physically, so we can accept the theory of reincarnation, or Christianity's "one shot", but in either case the lesson's we're to learn THIS time are HERE NOW.
Come to think of it (L), we don't HAVE to learn a damn thing if "we" choose not to. It's a miserable "way" to go though.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Soooooooooooooooooo!
PLEASE do something about the red...red...page on your site..It is frustrating to try to get dates/info about workshops when the printing and background cannot be read easily. The sidebar on right is just a big blur.....Please ..just an uncutesy black on white print so it can be read!!! ......Had to write at this addy as this is only place that had any sign of email addy..GJD
I am the thinker, the thought, the word and the flesh. I am the field, the wave, and the particle. Deepak Chopra Everyday Immortality www.chopra.com
I am the field, the wave, and the particle.
Deepak Chopra Everyday Immortality www.chopra.com
~Wednesday, June 28, 2000 ~ Q: What is the ultimate destiny of human beings? Does a person have a free will or choice in the matter? A: Our ultimate destiny is to rediscover the nature of our true reality. At that time we have free will, before that, we are always prisoners of our conditioning. www.chopra.com
Q: What is the ultimate destiny of human beings? Does a person have a free will or choice in the matter?
A: Our ultimate destiny is to rediscover the nature of our true reality. At that time we have free will, before that, we are always prisoners of our conditioning.
www.chopra.com
~Thursday, June 29, 2000 ~ Q: Is it our societal mandate or a divine wish that we choose one partner for life? If we are to grow and evolve does it not make more sense to grow past some relationships and into others? A: It is probably a little of both. The emotional turmoil caused by a relationship ending is generally something we would all wish to avoid and so, finding a partner for life makes the most sense. As with anything, we do the best we can. We should be responsible enough to choose a partner with whom we feel we can spend the rest of our life but, if that doesn't happen, we try again. Every relationship offers us the opportunity to learn and grow so nothing is ever wasted but we shouldn't take our relationships too lightly and feel we can just hop from one to the other as the fancy takes us. www.chopra.com
Q: Is it our societal mandate or a divine wish that we choose one partner for life? If we are to grow and evolve does it not make more sense to grow past some relationships and into others?
A: It is probably a little of both. The emotional turmoil caused by a relationship ending is generally something we would all wish to avoid and so, finding a partner for life makes the most sense. As with anything, we do the best we can. We should be responsible enough to choose a partner with whom we feel we can spend the rest of our life but, if that doesn't happen, we try again. Every relationship offers us the opportunity to learn and grow so nothing is ever wasted but we shouldn't take our relationships too lightly and feel we can just hop from one to the other as the fancy takes us.
Hi! Sil! :)
it's ok to love passionately. it is not until the moment that one must let go that attachement even needs to be considered.....
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