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On Monday, June 5, 2000, Geoff
(grjallen@hotmail.com)@203.12.152.23 said:
Good Morning All.

Richard, I wish you'd tapped ME on the shoulder 10 years ago. :)

Hadi, I take your point about Tibet. Funny thing is, I remember reading the Tibetan Book of the Dead ages ago when I was still trying hard to be an "atheist". Many people tell me I must've bin a Tibetan monk in a previous existence.

Just received this in my email ...

Judge Gently

Pray don't find fault with the man who limps
or stumbles along the road,
unless you have worn the shoes he wears
or struggled beneath his load.
There may be tacks in his shoes that hurt,
though hidden away from view,
or the burden he bears, placed on your back
might cause you to stumble too.
Don't sneer at the man who's down today
unless you have felt the blow
that caused his fall or felt the shame
that only the fallen know.
You may be strong, but still the blows
that were his if dealt to you,
in the selfsame way, at the selfsame time,
might cause you to stagger too.
Don't be too harsh with the man who sins
or pelt him with word or stone,
unless you are sure, yea, doubly sure,
that you have no sins of your own-
for you know perhaps if the tempter's voice
should whisper as softly to you
as it did to him when he went astray,
it might cause you to stumble too.


On Monday, June 5, 2000, Hadi (01@onetel.net.uk)@194.112.58.92 said:
Richard: hehe... "When we try to control, we've really lost control." I wish you'd tapped me on the shoulder and said that to me ten hours ago. I could have done with hearing that earlier today. ;)

On Monday, June 5, 2000, Richard Nordeen (nuridinn@hotmail.com)@63.14.211.56 said:
Hadi, I think that's a perfect example of the "Iron Law of Unintended Consequences". When we try to control, we've really lost control.

On Monday, June 5, 2000, Richard Nordeen (nuridinn@hotmail.com)@63.14.211.56 said:
June 5th Forum off at "Quantum Speeds". Thanks Hadi and Jan. Smiles here.

Namate'


On Monday, June 5, 2000, Jeffrey Szmanda (jszmanda@pocketimage.com)@169.207.133.178 said:
I'd like to pass along a June 4, 2000 "Sunday Times" article on to Dr. Deepak Chopra and Dr. Wayne Dyer. It is entitled, "Eureka! Scientists break the speed of light." The article talks about an experiment suggesting that soon we will be able to send information faster than the speed of light. After listening to a seminar conducted by the two colleagues, I thought they may have an interest in this information. I'll be happy to send it off to them or anyone else who would like to receive it. Jeff Szmanda

On Monday, June 5, 2000, Hadi (01@onetel.net.uk)@195.157.33.227 said:
Geoff: That's true, about the dalai Lama, but I think you would agree the comparison ends there. The Tibetan Buddhist tradition was a closed one, very secretive and culturally circumscribed. The Indian tradition is quite the opposite. Very open and uninhibited. It was our good fortune that Tibet and the Dalai Lama were brought into the public consciousness. it was not the intention of those who did so that we should take such an interest in Buddhism. They were just trying to get score some political points against the Chinese regime for its oppressive nature. By the same token it was not the intention of the Chinese that Tibettan Buddhism should prosper so widely. They had sought to crush it all together. Red faces all round, I suspect.

The Lord moves in mysterious ways.

On Monday, June 5, 2000, carol (from Jan)@152.163.201.52 said:
by Alan Cohen

When I read that the Dalai Lama was to speak at a conference, I noticed that his name was preceded by the letters "H.H." I asked someone what those letters stood for, and I was told, "His Holiness." It's also the respectful title bestowed upon the Pope.

I began to wonder why the Dalai Lama and the Pope got to be His Holiness, and not the rest of us. To be sure, these spiritual leaders are very holy - but are they more holy than anyone else? Do the Dalai Lama or the Pope have any more God in them than the people who mop their floors? I imagine they would agree that we are all equally holy in the eyes of God.

I met a man who called everyone he met, "Buddha". "How are you doing today, Buddha?" he would ask me. "Beautiful sunset, don't you think, Buddha?" At first I felt jarred by his magnanimous appellation. Then I began to really like it. It felt better than "Dude".

This month, the month of May, we celebrate Buddha's birthday. Buddha was very holy. One of his students asked Buddha, "Are you the messiah?"

"No", answered Buddha.

"Then are you a healer?"

"No", Buddha replied.

"Then are you a teacher?" the student persisted.

"No, I am not a teacher."

"Then what are you?" asked the student, exasperated.

"I am awake", Buddha replied.

The goal of Buddhism, like any self-respecting spiritual path, is not to have titles or to make distinctions between degrees of holiness; it is to wake up. I love the famous Buddhist admonition, "If you see the Buddha on the road, kill him." This means that if you try to single out the Buddha and confine him to one form at the expense of all others, you have severely missed the point, and you must do away with your concept that this is the Buddha and all else is not.

The story is told of a holy man who lived in a large house on top of a remote mountain. Over time, news of the holy man's greatness spread throughout the land, and many seekers made their way over the mountains in hopes of having even a brief moment with this saintly being.

Each aspirant was greeted at the door by a servant, who ushered him or her into the house, and guided the visitor through several rooms. After a few minutes the servant and aspirant arrived at another door, which led out of the back of the house. The servant opened the door and indicated to the visitor that it was time to leave.

"But I was hoping to have even a few minutes with the holy man!" the aspirant would utter in frustration.

"You just did," answered the holy man as he closed the door.

The insecure mind takes refuge in hierarchies of spirituality, seeking to segment the universe into levels of power and worth. The Spirit of Love, on the other hand, will have none of the hierarchy game; all is God, all is powerful, all is spiritual, and all is worthy. As the third Zen Patriarch Hsin Hsin Ming declared, "The great way is not difficult for those who have no preferences. Make the slightest distinction, however, and heaven and earth are set infinitely apart."

The "His Holiness" concept got me to thinking about other appellations of respect. Take "Your Honor", the title attributed to judges. Certainly judges merit honor, but are the other people in the courtroom any less honorable? I suggest that judges address the criminals before them as "Your Honor" as well; perhaps this practice would bring forth the honor within them. Most criminals were not treated with respect as children; beginning now might call forth their innate integrity. A Course in Miracles tells us that all actions are either pure expressions of love or calls for love. Addressing criminals as "Your Honor" might begin to satisfy that call in a healthy way.

Then there is "Your Majesty", "Your Grace", and "Your Highness", offered to royalty. Does that mean that everyone else is not majestic, graceful, or high? Hopefully not.

I've been thinking about what title I would like. I choose "Your Eminence".I like that because it implies that I emanate. That is my goal: to emanate. To emanate life, light, and joy. I don't care that much about being an Honor, Grace, Highness, or even Holiness; "Eminence" really makes my boat float.

So from now on, if you write, fax, email, or talk to me, I respectfully request that you address me as "Your Eminence". And when it comes time for me to address you, I'll do the same. Either we all emanate together, or none at all.

Okay, Buddha?

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On Sunday, June 4, 2000, Geoff (Hadi)@203.12.152.23 said:
Yes, I saw a doco on Sai Baba when our national broadcaster did a series about the life of Christ and those who are regarded in the same way in the modern world.

That was basically the first I had heard of him. Then again, until the Chinese invaded Tibet, we in the West had very little knowledge of the rich spiritual tradition of that country and the Dalai Lama who is one of my favourite people. Though I try NOT to play favourites. :)


On Sunday, June 4, 2000, Geoff (somewhere over the rainbow)@203.12.152.23 said:
You don't understand, Richard. We have to be vigilant and teach our kiddies to curb their natural tendencies & enthusiasm. How else can we mould them into normal, sensible, efficient, politically correct adults like us! I mean what would the world be like if we all behaved with gay abandon and exercised our imaginations to their full. It would be chaos. :)

BTW, that bird graphic comes from a site called Bird Pals where each first grader is assigned a bird to study, and a college student with whom to collaborate. Well worth a visit.

Cheerio.


On Sunday, June 4, 2000, carol (ACIM)@64.12.104.166 said:
Is it not madness to think of life as
being born, aging, losing vitality,
and dying in the end?

It is the one fixed belief of the world
that all things in it are born only to die.

This is not God's will for you.
What God creates is perfect and eternal
like himself and can never ever die.

A COURSE IN MIRACLES


On Sunday, June 4, 2000, Daniel (dano@bigfoot.com)@192.149.148.6 said:
Hadi, that is an interesting question. What does it take for a Saint to be recognized? A published book, a best selling audio tape, a NewsWeek cover, or maybe a crucifiction? The Saint may answer, "I am fully recognized."

On Sunday, June 4, 2000, Hadi (zarbafi@dircon.co.uk)@194.112.58.40 said:
Geoff, the reason I brought up Sai Baba was to chat about the fact that, in the west, even in these circles of spiritual seekers, very few people have heard of Sai Baba. Yet, in India and throughout Buddhist/Hindu Asia, he is considered to be like Jesus. Many think of him as the World Teacher or saviour that the various religions have anticipated. Sai Baba has been a practicing mystic since childhood and has been worshipped and revered for most of his life. Everywhere in India his pictures and likeness adorn walls and mantle pieces. Even in England I can buy Sai Baba incense, although most purchasers are unaware of who the guy on the packaging is. I believe he's about eighty now. He's been performing miracles for half a century and I was quite shocked to have not come across any information on him until I was 39, three years ago. I don't believe he has written any books, not to my knowledge anyway. Like Jesus he just practices and talks. It seems odd that our media and all the documentaries I have watched have never covered this man. I wonder why? ;)

On Sunday, June 4, 2000, Anna Buehler (FEMDEITY12@aol.com)@209.165.154.22 said:
I read the book about GOD by Dr. Chopra and I would like to say that there is an eigth level.I personally experienced an out of body experience after being drowned when I was younger. I was curious how many other people recognize this eighth level.

On Sunday, June 4, 2000, to george! (steagall@pacbell.net)@207.104.96.71 said:
i was unable to reach you at the address you left, i'm sorry! please feel free to contact me at the address above.
namaste
kathy

On Sunday, June 4, 2000, katt (steagall@pacbell.net)@207.104.96.71 said:
your so right richard. nothing compares to a child getting spanked at disneyland! anywhere actually!! i had the honor for way to short a period of time, to be the birth mother of three wonderful young boys. i would often hear that i was not strict enough or how i let them get away with too much.....however i am now a friend and confidant to three of the warmest, kindest and thoughtful young men. (a perfect grandson too!) people forget how short a time they were to be children. i've heard every excuse about how hard a time someone had or about how important it is to learn young. i was 40 when i found out for the first time just how mean people can be and i have to admit that i'm glad not to have been blinded by something like that during the first part of my life! let them be children! hug them and tell them how special they are every day. guide them, however, don't hurt their little hearts in any way. may there be only prace.
namaste'

On Saturday, June 3, 2000, Richard Nordeen (nuridinn@hotmail.com)@63.14.211.163 said:
Idle flights(?),Geoff, I loved the little birds graphic on your post re; children. When I see children out having fun (Being with one another), they remind me of a flocks of cheerful, chattering birds. This is more often noted when they are without the "Maestro's of the Appropriatti",aka controling/reactive adults.

It seems like everywhere I go. There are people yelling, threatening, and "spanking"(I call it hitting) children. Usually for crimes of exploration, questioning, being exuberant and unfettered in thought and action. Some how this translates into "WRONG/BAD is beyond me???What is wrong with bribing them, popsicles come to mind--sweeten them up, cool them off, and cork noisemaker. Oh well, as my old Professors used to say "too simplistic".

The real miracle, is that so many kids turn out ok, regardless of their nasty upbringings. Seems to prove that there is a universal consciousness that seeks Good.

Namaste'


On Saturday, June 3, 2000, Geoff (Hadi)@203.12.152.23 said:
Bear in mind I was an atheist until 15 months ago! :)

On Saturday, June 3, 2000, Geoff (Hadi)@203.12.152.23 said:
Hadi, I have heard of sai Baba but I'm not overly familiar with his work/teachings. Any particular reason for asking? :)

On Saturday, June 3, 2000, Geoff ()@203.12.152.23 said:
There's a place called Buddhism Depot which has a "Quote of the moment". It changes regularly - not sure how often. Here's what I found there recently:

The near enemies are qualities that arise in the mind and masquerade as genuine spiritual realization, when in fact they are only an imitation, servin to separate us from true feeling rather than connecting us to it...

The near enemy of lovingkindness is attachment...At first, attachment may feel like love, but as it grows it becomes more clearly the opposite, characterized by clinging, controlling, and fear.

The near enemy of compassion is pity, and this also separates us. Pity feels sorry for "that poor person over there," as if he were somehow different from us...

The near enemy of sympathetic joy (the joy in the happiness of others) is comparison, which looks to see if we have more of, the same as, or less than another...

The near enemy of equanimity is indifference. True equanimity is balance in the midst of experience, whereas indifference is a withdrawal and not caring, based on fear...

If we do not recognize and understand the near enemies, they will deaden our spiritual practice. The compartments they make cannot shield us for long from the pain and unpredictability of life, but they will surely stifle the joy and open connectedness of true relationships.

Jack Kornfield, A Path with Heart


On Saturday, June 3, 2000, Geoff (idle thoughts)@203.12.152.23 said:
Just a few thoughts on recent themes ... In many ways, I see children as actually our BEST teachers. You only have to watch youngsters in action especially before "schooling" has shaped them (or should that be misshaped them?).

They are open & friendly towards all and sundry and will generally say "Hi" to a passing stranger. Simply because they haven't learnt to SEE anyone as a stranger just yet or to put stringent conditions on the love that is their essential nature.

Maybe that's what is meant by the line in the Bible about "Unless you become as children you cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven"


On Saturday, June 3, 2000, katt (steagall@pacbell.net)@207.215.149.121 said:
Hadi, i agree with geoff, your thoughts on the spiritual connection of soul mates was wonderful!
thank you
george, if i am unable to reach you for some reason please feel free to contact me at the address above. i live in the san diego area and would love to help you in any way i can!!
namaste'
kathy

On Friday, June 2, 2000, Adriana (adrianamello@earthlink.net)@166.90.36.46 said:
I am a Brazilian journalist writing a piece on Deepak's son new book. Can anybody send me info? Thanks

On Friday, June 2, 2000, Hadi (Illusions...)@212.67.97.28 said:
Many things "out there" don't exist for us, not because they are unreal, but because "in here" we have not shaped the brain to perceive them. We are like radios that appear to have all the channels when actually they are stuck on three - waking, sleeping and dreaming.

~ Deepak Chopra.


On Friday, June 2, 2000, Hadi (Geoff)@212.67.97.28 said:
Richard Bach has a lot to answer for. Did you know he is no longer with his "soul mate". Didn't work out, I guess. Got too attached to his own ideal.

Since you are down under in Australia, Geoff, I would have thought that you would have heard a bit about Sai Baba. Certainly more than your average Texan. Have you?


On Friday, June 2, 2000, Hadi (zarbafi@dircon.co.uk)@212.67.97.28 said:
"...then there is only one of us."

At this rate that statement could be very true.


On Friday, June 2, 2000, Geoff ()@203.12.152.23 said:
Hadi,

No, haven't heard of that film. But I know from direct personal experience over th past 15 months that a life can alter course in ways that are far starnger than fiction. I thought I would be the very last person on this planet to have the kind of experiences I have encountered during that time. My picture of reality has expanded beyond anything I would have imagined possible. And I've always had an active imagination. :)

Reading that excerpt from Daphne also reminds me of an article called The Game

Loved your thoughts on soul-mates. If we can learn to see everyone as a soul-mate we might get somewhere!

Namaste.

From the archives comes this definition of Namaste -

Sanskrit greeting meaning "I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides. I honor the place in you, where lies your love, your light, your truth and your beauty. I honor the place in you where...if you are in that place in you...and I am in that place in me....then there is only one of us."

BTW, on your earlier question about synchronicities ... hmm ... interesting question ... I know myself there are days when I feel totally "tuned in" and everything/everyone I see or encounter inspires me. Everything I do on these days is literally effort-less. Other days I can't reallly tune in at all as if the knob on the radio has been busted and all I get is static. Maybe the synchronicities are actually generated more often when we are "tuned in" ...


On Friday, June 2, 2000, Colette Harman (promo@primeline.net)@216.183.153.136 said:
Hi All: I am a Doctor of Naturopathic Medicine and am seriously looking at the whole vaccination issue. Some convincing research questions whether vaccinations are safe, effective, or even necessary. I have discussed this issue with some medical doctors who I normally find to be quite open to alternatives in health and healing, and yet I feel that, when it comes to this issue, many of them have a blind spot. They don't seem to be willing to look at the possibility that vaccinations may NOT be safe, effective or necessary. What does Dr. Chopra have to say about this issue?

On Friday, June 2, 2000, Hadi (zarbafi@dircon.co.uk)@212.67.100.11 said:
Kozol: I am glad to have been of some service. I was thinking about your question about Spiritual connections. The fact is that we are all spiritually connected, not just a few of us. There are no special connections like "soul-mates", a much hyped romantic idea. You've heard the expression, "you are not responsible for how someone else feels". By the same token, no one else is responsible for how you feel. When you feel a spiritual connection with someone it is because they have triggered and awakened "love" inside you. It was always there, but it needed something to awaken it. If they do not feel the same way that is fine. What makes your feeling more powerful and sometimes frustrating is that you are misunderstanding what this signal within you is. You think that by possessing the other person or by persuading them to feel the same way you will satisfy the feeling inside. You want them to feel the same. So what you are essentially expressing is a "lack". Yet if you understood this feeling more deeply, with greater clarity, you would come to realise that you are not lacking. So simply enjoy recognising this connection and try to maintain it with others. We fall in love when someone meets the false criteria we have set up in our "mind set". When someone fits our desired specifications we then allow ourselves to open up the wellspring of love and joy within us. But they may have different expectations and the original premis is, in any case, false. You can allow yourself to love at any time, with any one, if you can do so unconditionally.

I hope I haven't misunderstood your original question. If so I apologise in advance any presumptions I made of the romantic nature of the spiritual connection.


On Friday, June 2, 2000, Hadi (zarbafi@dircon.co.uk)@212.67.97.152 said:
Geoff: Really enjoyed reading your "Heart & Soul" quote. How true. Have you ever seen the film "Grand Canyon"? That is a good demonstration of how the crossing paths of different lives can influence people.

On Friday, June 2, 2000, carol (Chopra's Sutras)@205.188.197.189 said:
The Unified Field is the field of
dimensionless reality.
It is the potentiality for all the
information energy and matter in the
Universe.

The Unified Field is the ground state
of all there is.
It is the potentiality for space-time
and space-time events.

Deepak Chopra
www.chopra.com
Everyday Immortality


On Friday, June 2, 2000, George T. Posford (valgt@netway.co.uk)@203.109.253.201 said:
(This system doesn't seem to include the paragraphs which were originally there - sorry!) I am coming from New Zealand to San Diego soon for a week and would like to meet someone associated with the Centre. My background is in science, business and spirituality and am a full time Environmental Project Designer and I have been meditating for 30 years. Would any kindred spirit like to have an English guest for a short time and show me round the area? I prefer that to hotels. I am en route to launching a project world wide on the net about a vision for children and school systems to create easily their own earth-friendly and high quality lifestyle. All my work has been centred on the Unity of Life and the joy of caring for it as a set easily learned skills. Now 12 years of research is about to be implemented. I will be visiting various parts of the States and offering a free "New Start' seminar to small private invited groups. I am so happy that Dr. Chopra has come out in public with this beautiful work. Thankyou Depak and I would be honoured to see you while in San Diego. Please contact me on lifecare@ihug.co.nz before 4th June. I'd like to know your background and special interest too. Thankyou, George Thomas.

On Thursday, June 1, 2000, Decision (Is)@216.234.161.71 said:
You should go.

On Thursday, June 1, 2000, The Clash (Should I Stay Or Should I Go)@216.34.244.46 said:
Darling you gotta let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
If you say that you are mine
I'll be here 'til the end of time
So you got to let know
Should I stay or should I go?

Always tease tease tease
Siempre - coqetiando y enganyando
You're happy when I'm on my knees
Me arrodilla y estas feliz
One day is fine, next is black
Un dias bien el otro negro
So if you want me off your back
Al rededar en tu espalda
Well come on and let me know
Me tienes que desir
Should I Stay or should I go?
Me debo ir o que darme

Should I stay or should I go now?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble
An' if I stay it will be double
So come on and let me know

This indecision's bugging me
Esta undecision me molesta
If you don't want me, set me free
Si no me quieres, librame
Exactly who'm I'm supposed to be
Diga me que tengo ser
Don't you know which clothes even fit me?
¨Saves que robas me querda?
Come on and let me know
Me tienes que desir
Should I cool it or should I blow?
¨Me debo ir o quedarme?

Should I stay or should I go now?
¨Yo me frio o lo sophlo?
If I go there will be trouble
Si me voi - va ver peligro
And if I stay it will be double
Si me quedo es doble
So you gotta let me know
Me tienes que decir
Should I stay or should I go?
¨Yo me frio o lo sophlo?


On Thursday, June 1, 2000, Richard Nordeen (nuridinn@hotmail.com)@63.14.212.114 said:
Thanks Geoff, aka "Link Man". Purveyor of fine links here and at the wow. Keeping the life and spirit of LGM (little green men) and PBB (purple bliss bunnies) well and wanted.

Namaste'


On Thursday, June 1, 2000, Geoff ()@203.12.152.23 said:

Click on the above image to go to the site Carol mentioned


On Wednesday, May 31, 2000, Kozol ((@itis.com))@192.76.86.65 said:
Thank you, Mr. Hadi. You have helped tremendously.

On Wednesday, May 31, 2000, carol (Chopra's Sutras)@152.163.201.72 said:
The four fundamental forces of Nature
come from one Unified Field.
The Unified Field is the source
of creation - the dancer.

Deepak Chopra
Everyday Immortality
www.chopra.com


On Wednesday, May 31, 2000, carol (nevno96@aol.com)@152.163.201.72 said:
hi Geoff - you posted a link that fits in nicely with Daphne's, Heart & Soul;

Meditation For Children

I am a member of the world family.
I am related to those who stand next to me,
by the air we breathe, by the light we share,
by the hope we have for a better world.
I have a responsibility to give, to receive..
To be open-minded and free.
I have inherited this world
from those that have lived before.
I occupy space and time for a few short years.
I hold this world in trust for those who follow.
My life with others can fashion this world
toward peace, other than strife,
hope rather than despair,
freedom rather than slavery.
I, with those about me, can make the
[family of humanity] a living thing.
I pledge my willing spirit to this thought.
We will do this together.

http://www.lausd.k12.ca.us/Gage_MS/StudentPages/WorldFam/worldfam.htm


On Wednesday, May 31, 2000, Geoff (grjallen@hotmail.com)@203.12.152.23 said:
Reading a few of the latest posts, I'm reminded of something I've just been reading that was posted in the Forum a while back ...

"With each person who passes through your life, you have a soul agreement. What this means is that long ago, in the realm of the soul, you promised to have some special encounter, share some life-shaping experience, complete some soul-honing work with that particular soul in this life. Soul agreements are commitments to the evolution of our individual souls in conjunction with one another, as one by one we make the journey to that state of seamless awareness that the mystics call enlightenment.

It is because of these agreements on a soul level that at times you may feel a mysterious strange connection with some other person, why difficult people may at times inexplicably inhabit your life, why you may find yourself on a journey with a particular person---as if you had an unwritten contract to fulfill---and then discover that, as if by amputation, your association is suddenly over.

As the community of souls who have gathered together in life on earth, we have agreed not only to remember for each other the pure state that was our origin, but also to act out whatever portion of the endlessly changing tableau of human experience we have been called upon to play to ensure our own soul's growth and that of the souls to whom we have made these deep promises.

Some of us are here to be beautiful and strong, others to be cranky and difficult, some to die young and teach us through the searing heartbreak of great loss, others to live long and instruct us through wisdom.

But no matter what role we are playing, we are all enacting a part in that one great spiritual destiny, which is to remember our eternal essence and move toward ultimate union.

So it is that every person you meet, each soul who crosses your path and affects you---wonderfully and terribly, briefly or for a lifetime---is here for that reason, and every relationship you engage in is but a small scene in the vast, ever-unfolding human panoply that is being endlessly enacted for the purpose of your soul's development. When you recognize this, you will suddenly, breathtakingly see that each person has been brought to you with a high and elegant purpose, that each soul has come to touch your soul and teach it, that each relation-ship exists to hasten your own soul's beautiful awakening.

No longer is anyone a stranger; no longer can any of your relationships be seen as failures or mistakes. In the light of the spirit, we see that we are all playing out roles that are the fulfillment of an exquisite and all-encompassing plan.

To recognize this is to step out of conflict and into grace, for when we realize that life has been so beautifully designed, we will bask in the light of the spirit; we will live in absolute peace."

From "Heart & Soul" by Daphne Rose Kingma


On Tuesday, May 30, 2000, Geoff (places to visit)@203.12.152.23 said:
During the Forum's hiatus, I have kept my elves busy scouring the Internet for interesting sites to visit. I am still compiling all the data and re-organising my links page. In the meantime, you might like to Click here to find a few interesting links. BTW, in contrast to Richard's purple bliss bunnies, I dress my elves in a lovely shade of green. I like to call them my little green men. Say goodnight, Geoffrey.


On Tuesday, May 30, 2000, Geoff (Typo)@203.12.152.23 said:
Interesting typo in my previous message, did anyone spot it? :)

On Tuesday, May 30, 2000, Geoff (Hadi)@203.12.152.23 said:
Thanks for the tip. Actually, I've just started a book by John Horgan called The Undiscovered Mind (How the brain deifies explanation) which explores the riddle of consciousness, psychotherapy etc.

I'm reminded of the old joke that goes something like this: "If the brain was simple enough for us to understand it, we'd be so dumb we wouldn't be able to understand it."


On Tuesday, May 30, 2000, Jorge Larraín (castor@entelchile.net)@164.77.81.223 said:
Largo es el camino del entendimiento Humano pero con perseverancia y sana tosudez se va construyendo el recuerdo firme que va armando el gran andamiaje de la vida. Ya veremos que tablones aporta el amigo Deepak Chopra a éste peregrino que camina por esos senderos de la Faz de la Tierra en busca de la sanación de su cuerpo.

On Tuesday, May 30, 2000, Jorge Larraín (castor@entelchile.net)@164.77.81.223 said:
Largo es el camino del entendimiento Humano pero con perseverancia y sana tosudez se va construyendo el recuerdo firme que va armando el gran andamiaje de la vida. Ya veremos que tablones aporta el amigo Deepak Chopra a éste peregrino que camina por esos senderos de la Faz de la Tierra en busca de la sanación de su cuerpo.

On Tuesday, May 30, 2000, phoenix ((((kozol)))))@216.34.56.10 said:
perhaps there needn't be an explanation...perhaps if one believes in reincarnation..that person recognizes you and eventually, through dreams and meditation you will be able to 'remember' this other person. perhaps the reason is simple karma...things to straighten out from a past lifetime.......a connection is a connection..if that makes sense...if you don't feel it, perhaps the other person did you wrong in another life and he wants to make good to you in this lifetime...maybe the hurt was so bad that you do't want to remember... just thoughts...

On Tuesday, May 30, 2000, Kozol ((@itis.com))@192.76.86.65 said:
Can you tell me what the purpose is for one person to have a spiritual connection with another person? This confuses me, especially if the other person does not sense the spiritual connection.

On Tuesday, May 30, 2000, Phoenix (@work)@208.49.238.132 said:
Good morning...I have a few minutes to type away on this machine before I begin my day. I spent a few hours with him last night at the hospital..So many of the things that have been written here have popped into my head at various times. Special conversations with Cara have helped me to prepare for this time and I am eternally grateful to all of you; being a part of a familar strangers lives and giving the love that you all do without reservation...this is truely a wonderful space to share and interact with minds that are more or less 'like' in direction and more so in 'spirit'. I do so believe that we will all meet upon some distant shore without any pain or dispair...this is the time where the transition takes place and those who are energized upon this earth to share and comfort are the blessings from above. God bless YOU...you are all my anchors ....x

On Tuesday, May 30, 2000, Hadi (M@ny typos)@194.112.59.64 said:
That part of my paragraph should read

the more "my" perceptions are open to synchronistic events.


On Tuesday, May 30, 2000, Hadi (zarbafi@dircon.co.uk)@194.112.59.59 said:
The green type was from Jung's "Selected Writings". My point of discussion is the bit below that.

On Tuesday, May 30, 2000, Hadi (zarbafi@dircon.co.uk)@194.112.59.59 said:
Jung, in common with other thinkers at different periods of history, believed in an ultimate unity of existence. Using the terminology of medieval philosophy, he reffered to this an the "unus mundus". This unity is outside the human catogories of time and space, and beyond our seperation of reality into physical and mental. In Psychology and Alchemy Jung writes of

"Actualizing those contents of the unconscious which are outside nature, i.e. not a datum of our empirical world, and therefore an a priori of archetypal character. The place or medium of realisation is neither mind nor matter, but that intermediate realm of subtle reality which can adequately be expressed only by symbol."

If our categories of physical and mental are artificial, "objective" events and states of mind may be interrelated. Jung certainly believed that archetypes manifested themselves, at least occasionally, in physical events and in states of mind at the same time. He named this phenomenon synchronicity.

What this essentially boils down to is that the unconscious realm reaches us by such manifestations of synchronicity within the conscious realm of mind and matter. However, the mechanical-man who lives in Stuart Wilde's "tick-tock" will not see the synchronicity as a deliberate or meaningful manifestation, but simply as coincidence. My own experience has been that the more centered and "awake" I am, the more by perceptions are open to synchronistic events. Sometimes large chunks of my days seem synchronistic. Other times not. Are we having constant synchronistic events but failing to perceive them through "sleep" or perhaps "denial", or are we experiencing occasional synchronicities and need to continually be "aware" and on the look-out for them?




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