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Phreak Ethics?
Do phreaks have ethics? It is a very touchy subject. Some 'hardcore phreaks' say no, alot say 'yes, but to an extent', no matter how you put it almost every phreak has a heart, has a view of their own. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and opinions vary from phreak to phreak. What do phreaks really think? Lets see, but before you read on please note that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and if yours is not like mine, or any others it is not a reason to start flaming them.
A chat with Fermaldihyde
aardwolf_> well, what do you think about phreak ethics? i mean
what is your opinion
Fermaldihyde> You want to know what I think they are?
Fermaldihyde> We don't keep on destroying phones
Fermaldihyde> Cause after awhile they will be taken away
Fermaldihyde> We know when to stop
Fermaldihyde> We have control
Fermaldihyde> We aren't out to hurt anyone pyshically
Fermaldihyde> Only out to learn
Fermaldihyde> Maybe make money
Fermaldihyde> Have fun
Fermaldihyde> But nothing that would send someone inocent to
jail
aardwolf_> what about the victims what have to pay for our
"fun"?
Fermaldihyde> We do those things to evil people
Fermaldihyde> People that really piss us of
Fermaldihyde> Not a 80 year old woman who lives of SS
Fermaldihyde> That can barely pay her bills
aardwolf_> do you really think our victims pay for them? or
bell?
Fermaldihyde> If bell thinks they did it
Fermaldihyde> I still wouldn't do it to a 80 year old women
aardwolf_> thanks ferm
Fermaldihyde> NP
A chat with Analog_Aviator (age 14)
aardwolf_> do phreaks have ethics
Analog_Aviator> hmm, i would say... yes
Analog_Aviator> although we "steal"
Analog_Aviator> we steal from the rich
Analog_Aviator> but its not really stealing cause no one pays for
it except the fone company paying like 2 cents for electricity
aardwolf_> do we ever steal from the poor?
Analog_Aviator> well some of us do (unfortunately)
Analog_Aviator> but even if we do the bill is disputed and most of
the time telco pays for it
aardwolf_> ok, but what about the $5 billion that bell atlantic
alone has lost due to phone fraud?
Analog_Aviator> i think that 5 billion was projected. like if the
people would have payed then thats what it would have cost
Analog_Aviator> but if they were paying the wouldnt have made so
many calls. :)
aardwolf_> do you think we are just destroying our purpose, and
up'ing the prices by phreaking free calls?
Analog_Aviator> nah
Analog_Aviator> i dont think we up the prices
Analog_Aviator> all they really have to pay for is electricity
aardwolf_> if you could sum up phreak ethics in your mind in one
simple paragraph what would you say
Analog_Aviator> probably that we are just people who are looking
for an intellectual challenge along with some excitement and that
most of us (in my mind) dont think we are causing and REAL
damage.
aardwolf_> thank you Analog_Aviator
Analog_Aviator> no prob :)
A chat with MorningDew (age 16)
aardwolf_> Do phreaks have ethics?
MorningDew> somewhat
aardwolf_> in your mind, what are they
MorningDew> well, i think that you shouldnt exploit those who cant
afford it, bell people and just ordinary citizens
aardwolf_> do you think we are destroying what we belive in
aardwolf_> are we the ones raising prices?
MorningDew> yes
MorningDew> we are
MorningDew> i think its wrong to do that
MorningDew> but not really us
MorningDew> its those that really exploit the system
MorningDew> those that commit like mad fraud
MorningDew> just everyday phreaks dont do much
MorningDew> a little here and there
MorningDew> but not a lot
MorningDew> i think that phreaks have caused some of the problems
with raised prices
aardwolf_> ok, if you were to sum up phreak ethics in a paragraph,
in your mind what would you say?
MorningDew> well
MorningDew> i think
MorningDew> dont hurt those that cant survive on what they
have
MorningDew> dont destroy things from the phone company
MorningDew> dont do things that would harm the phone companty
aardwolf_> thanks
MorningDew> np
A chat with Harb|nger (age 15)
aardwolf_> Do phreaks have ethics?
Harb|nger> Hmmmm....yes they do
Harb|nger> true ones do...
aardwolf_> what about phone fraud? is that phreaking?
Harb|nger> It's the bad side of phreaking.....
Harb|nger> just like the bad side to hacking is credit card number
stealing
aardwolf_> ok, in a paragraph, in your mind, what are phreak
ethics?
Harb|nger> Phreaks just like hackers have the goal of knowlege.
Hackers want to know all kinds of information. Phreaks, on the other
hand, mostly want to know how the telephone system works. This may
require some phone fraud, but the fraud is not as intentional as
someone who goes out just to make a free call from a payphone so they
can save a measly $.35.
Harb|nger> Phreaks are the ones who study and learn how to use the
system to it's fullest capability, without harming anyone or
themselves. It's all just a question of morals.....either you have
them or you do have them....that is what makes or does not make you a
phreak.
aardwolf_> thanks
Harb|nger> np
A simple file written by aardwolf (age 15)
Understanding
Why do we waste our time trying to figure out how to beat the system?
Cheat the toll? We pay nothing for these services, and our unknowing
victims do. Even if they dont pay it, bell does. Dont you think we
could be using out knowladge for a better cause? We complain about
high prices, profitering gluttons, but we are the ones to blame. I do
not say alot of them are plain out greedy, but are we any better? How
would you like it if 10 years from now your working for bell, and 10%
of your paycheck is taken out due to the huge increce in
telecommunications fraud. 5 Billion in the past few years, you know
what 5 billion could buy? Alot of homes for the homeless, or food for
those without. Maybe Im going crazy, maybe I just had a sudden case
of guilt. Maybe im just understanding it from their point of view.
Whatever the reason Im just trying to say that we are destroying all
that we stand for. Fooling the system is not making it any better for
us, or anyone else. I hope you understand that one day...
In this cold, dark time, the fire that burns within ourselves brings
no light to us or others
Ethics of a phreak
By: MorningDew (16)
While not everyone may agree with these ideas, I feel that these
provide a basic ideal system for phreaks. Also realize this, you
don't have to accept it or believe it but it's the truth. Phreaks,
among others are responsible for the losses of over 3 million dollars
from Bell. The phone companies are there to help phreaks, they are
the reason we exist, so please have some respect for them and
remember that they help you too. Well here they are
1. Don't exploit a family/group/person that is poor and cannot
support themselves already.
2. Don't steal (If you so choose to do) anything from a lineman or
any other phone company employee that they could not afford to
replace.
3. Do not do anything that would damage a Bell Computer (or any other
phone company) or do anything that would inhibit normal phone company
operations.
4. Show some respect for the authorities (i.e. the police), for
linemen and phone company employees, they may help you out someday,
and teach you a thing or two.
5. Don't steal money or damage financial records of any phone
company.
6. If you don't know what you are doing with some equipment or are in
a place and you don't know what you are doing then leave things
alone, you could damage things by accident that you shouldn't, or
even kill yourself.
These are only a few basics, if you have any suggestions please mail
them to MornyngDew@hotmail.com
The Ethics of a Phreak
By: Luna
The purge of a phone is not to be compared to that of Stalin's purges
in Russia. At the death of Lenin, Stalin exiled Trotsky, put his
goons in the politburo and proceeded to purge out the unfaithful
through mass graves and the every tenth man method. At present we
have a Mixed Economy in America, this being a conglomeration of
French Socialism and Capitalism, and riddled with the Contract Theory
or Exploitation Theory of Douglass North,(if you care to dispute this
talk turkey with me later.) we have multibillionares, and empires
based upon nothing more than who can trace their ancestors back
farther. And I ask myself, as I always do; where does Falco come in,
if Wolfgang Mozart ever heard 'Rock Me Amadeus' would he think it was
cool? Do the neato numbers and letters on a car such as a Z 128,
actually mean something? If one has a better relationship with their
German Pen pal than their best friend mean that they are a freak? My
point being, lest you have not been able to infer it is that, this is
a strange and crazy world we live in. There are many problems and
frustrations that we all must deal with, not just on a personal
level, but also on a national and global level. Then I must really
say, What kind of crime is it to phreak? Criminals, REAL criminals
are given a free phone call. Hey, they even let E.T. phone home and
those must have been some mad long distance charges. If E.T. could
phone home, then why can't I? I myself may have never dipped into Ma
Bell's wires for a little phun, but how can I condem an act that is
on the grand scheme of things, insignificant. Does this bother you
the reader, the phreak that I say your actions are insignificant?
Even if you do a mad hack or whatever though I am sure it would boost
the ego or distroy the American confidence in security, to what end
is this a crime. Morally one could say that it is the ethics behind
it. I simply say, they are charging us 35 cents for a phone call, for
every legal phone call I make I am losing money I previously did not
have toshell out to the monopoly that is Ma Bell, and damnit I Want
My Quarter Back! As for the people that say such actions turn into
bigger problems, they are the ones who usually say that education is
paramont. The N-P-A is a conduit for information. Would those people
then be opposed to this form of education? That would be an exception
to the rules. If those wise sages really had education they would
have remembered the words of Stanley P. Gudder in his book Quantum
Probability_ that, 'A slight variation in axioms in a theory can
result in a huge change at the frontier.' This is a simple argument,
not necessarily for the phreak but for the political actors, and
closeminded people out there who live in fear of 'those damn kids.' I
leave you all with this thought from my favorite German poet Goethe,
(although the true meaning of Goethe's Der Erlkoenig is sick and
twisted) who was a man of incredible morals and character, 'It is a
maximum of wise government to deal with men as they are, rather than
as theyought to be.' PS- If you do read Goethe or most any german
thinkers please les es doch auf Deutsch! (read it in German!)
Ethics and The Young Minds of Today
By-Jambi (age15)
NOTE: Please read this whole thing through before you judge it.
Today tomarrow and the next day, children our children and our
grandchildren are forced to higher standards. A few years ago you
could get a decent job with just a high school education, today you
can get by with community college, tommarow you will be required to
have a top education to be a burger flipper. Large multimillion
dollar companies tired of screwing around with mom and pop
operations, the personal side of buisness is lost. No one cares that
you couldn't afford to go to college, they just want results, as fast
and as cheap as possible. Hundreds of college educated minds in their
little cubicles happily pounding out results quickly and cheaply. We
work all our life starting in grade school to get good grades to be
placed in good high school classes, working in high school to get
good grades to go to a good college, go to a good college to get a
good job, do good at your job to get what? More money? More
possesions? What the hell ever happend to simplicity? It went to
those big companies, sitting and watching us work, to make their
companies larger, unstopable. For what? More money, more possesions.
What about living life? Most of our life will be spent working to be
able to work more. Then when we are old and decreped we can sit in
our sun chairs wondering what the fuck have I done? What happened?
Then we realize the chance we had at a real life is past so we just
sit in our sun chairs to old and helpless to do anything about it,
because we are already dead. Those mulitimilion dollar corperations
wither us away day by day, some have realized what is happening and
tried to change it. Everyone is brainwashed into beleiving whatever
is fed to you, you no longer think for yourselfs, you think what you
are told to think even at a subconcious level. Everyone is
brainwashed to reject any forward going ideas that might harm these
large money making machines. I'm sure many people think the Unibomber
is nuts, but we are the ones who are nuts like some weird episode of
the twilite zone. Infact he's the one thats got it right. I do not
beleive that people needed to die but I am also not sure how else he
could have gotten the point accross. People are caught in the flow of
the flash flood of fourtune 500 organizations, and we, the workers
that are the base of these organizations are starting to drown.
People today are wondering what is wrong with these kids today that
live in nice communities and have nice lives that just spontaniously
kill people, seemingly with no cause. Its now happening all the time,
whats wrong with those kids? They must be nuts. Whats wrong with
you?!? You sit and watch the youth of today decay before your eyes
and you blame it on drugs and rock music. You blame it on us. ON US!
How dare you! Who the hell came up with drugs and rock music? We sure
as hell didn't invent it. Who gave birth to us and tought us our
ways? YOU DID. Hypocritical america ignoring the youth, THE
FOUNDATION of tommarow. See if we give a fuck about you when your in
a nursing home not even able to control your blatter functions let
alone any giant organizations. Who will control them then? We will,
we will control them because that is what was shouved down our
throughts and that is what we will shouve down our childrens
throughts. These huge organizations use us. They use us almost as a
fuel to make their companies grow. They just throw some of us on the
fire. Now ask yourself this considering all of what I have just told
you. Who here has the lack of ethics. Us? The ones that refuse to pay
for a long distance phone call, or use somones credit card to buy
somthing that the card company will have to pay for? Or the tyranical
organizations that use. That use to fuel their needless and
meaningless growth. So, whats your answer ETHICAL PHREAK?