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Phreak Ethics?

Do phreaks have ethics? It is a very touchy subject. Some 'hardcore phreaks' say no, alot say 'yes, but to an extent', no matter how you put it almost every phreak has a heart, has a view of their own. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and opinions vary from phreak to phreak. What do phreaks really think? Lets see, but before you read on please note that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and if yours is not like mine, or any others it is not a reason to start flaming them.

A chat with Fermaldihyde

aardwolf_> well, what do you think about phreak ethics? i mean what is your opinion
Fermaldihyde> You want to know what I think they are?
Fermaldihyde> We don't keep on destroying phones
Fermaldihyde> Cause after awhile they will be taken away
Fermaldihyde> We know when to stop
Fermaldihyde> We have control
Fermaldihyde> We aren't out to hurt anyone pyshically
Fermaldihyde> Only out to learn
Fermaldihyde> Maybe make money
Fermaldihyde> Have fun
Fermaldihyde> But nothing that would send someone inocent to jail
aardwolf_> what about the victims what have to pay for our "fun"?
Fermaldihyde> We do those things to evil people
Fermaldihyde> People that really piss us of
Fermaldihyde> Not a 80 year old woman who lives of SS
Fermaldihyde> That can barely pay her bills
aardwolf_> do you really think our victims pay for them? or bell?
Fermaldihyde> If bell thinks they did it
Fermaldihyde> I still wouldn't do it to a 80 year old women
aardwolf_> thanks ferm
Fermaldihyde> NP


A chat with Analog_Aviator (age 14)

aardwolf_> do phreaks have ethics
Analog_Aviator> hmm, i would say... yes
Analog_Aviator> although we "steal"
Analog_Aviator> we steal from the rich
Analog_Aviator> but its not really stealing cause no one pays for it except the fone company paying like 2 cents for electricity
aardwolf_> do we ever steal from the poor?
Analog_Aviator> well some of us do (unfortunately)
Analog_Aviator> but even if we do the bill is disputed and most of the time telco pays for it
aardwolf_> ok, but what about the $5 billion that bell atlantic alone has lost due to phone fraud?
Analog_Aviator> i think that 5 billion was projected. like if the people would have payed then thats what it would have cost
Analog_Aviator> but if they were paying the wouldnt have made so many calls. :)
aardwolf_> do you think we are just destroying our purpose, and up'ing the prices by phreaking free calls?
Analog_Aviator> nah
Analog_Aviator> i dont think we up the prices
Analog_Aviator> all they really have to pay for is electricity
aardwolf_> if you could sum up phreak ethics in your mind in one simple paragraph what would you say
Analog_Aviator> probably that we are just people who are looking for an intellectual challenge along with some excitement and that most of us (in my mind) dont think we are causing and REAL damage.
aardwolf_> thank you Analog_Aviator
Analog_Aviator> no prob :)


A chat with MorningDew (age 16)

aardwolf_> Do phreaks have ethics?
MorningDew> somewhat
aardwolf_> in your mind, what are they
MorningDew> well, i think that you shouldnt exploit those who cant afford it, bell people and just ordinary citizens
aardwolf_> do you think we are destroying what we belive in
aardwolf_> are we the ones raising prices?
MorningDew> yes
MorningDew> we are
MorningDew> i think its wrong to do that
MorningDew> but not really us
MorningDew> its those that really exploit the system
MorningDew> those that commit like mad fraud
MorningDew> just everyday phreaks dont do much
MorningDew> a little here and there
MorningDew> but not a lot
MorningDew> i think that phreaks have caused some of the problems with raised prices
aardwolf_> ok, if you were to sum up phreak ethics in a paragraph, in your mind what would you say?
MorningDew> well
MorningDew> i think
MorningDew> dont hurt those that cant survive on what they have
MorningDew> dont destroy things from the phone company
MorningDew> dont do things that would harm the phone companty
aardwolf_> thanks
MorningDew> np


A chat with Harb|nger (age 15)

aardwolf_> Do phreaks have ethics?
Harb|nger> Hmmmm....yes they do
Harb|nger> true ones do...
aardwolf_> what about phone fraud? is that phreaking?
Harb|nger> It's the bad side of phreaking.....
Harb|nger> just like the bad side to hacking is credit card number stealing
aardwolf_> ok, in a paragraph, in your mind, what are phreak ethics?
Harb|nger> Phreaks just like hackers have the goal of knowlege. Hackers want to know all kinds of information. Phreaks, on the other hand, mostly want to know how the telephone system works. This may require some phone fraud, but the fraud is not as intentional as someone who goes out just to make a free call from a payphone so they can save a measly $.35.
Harb|nger> Phreaks are the ones who study and learn how to use the system to it's fullest capability, without harming anyone or themselves. It's all just a question of morals.....either you have them or you do have them....that is what makes or does not make you a phreak.
aardwolf_> thanks
Harb|nger> np


A Paper by KOSMOS. Zen, and phreaking. (age 15)

Since around 1980 the word "hacker" has been an evil unmetioned word, until something went wrong with the computer, then it was all there fault. With Kevin being arrested and the scare of Yahoo being hacked was the media's big uproar to the movies like "Hackers". We see it all around us, hackers being used as scapegoats, as the government fights to suppress us, they use us to help them. No matter what you do there will always be two sides to a story, a good, and a bad. TheMentor, arrested creates what is most popularly know as "TheMentors Last Words" in which we are all alike. That Utopia never existed, and still is fighting to come alive. Proudly there is advancements. Groups Deforming, transforming into the true meaning of the h/p... Educate ....But still there are assholes, people that do not wish to comply, all those people that are "better" than me. Quite frankly, your ignorance shows your stupidity. With phreaks becoming Telephone company workers, and hackers becoming high-tech programmers, there is no end to our potential. But my quest will continue, to bring forth the ONE MIND that we all have, to become a single force in h/p.... More and more "Ethical" files are being wrote, bringing us down to earth to look ourselves in the face, to understand what we are... A human. Accused of the worst, with the good side hardly even glanced at.. Just a living organism with all the curiosity that can lead to the technology and knowledge and advancement of the next generation... But your a hacker, so that generation will have to remain to the knowledge of the teacher, as the students are kept in a cage, never seeing the hole, the next step. Its true you do not have to be this rocket scientist to be a hacker, but you do have to be a hacker to be rocket scientist. ANYONE that has programmed through qbasic, a batch file, is a hacker, nothing to be appraised, but not to be pushed away. The phreaks are looked at just the same, as delinquents just looking to get around that 35 cents, that $3.00 long distance call, never as a thinking mind, or an inventor. Well if a phreak is not these things Id like to know where an Aqua box came from. So we will continue to teach our young ones as we do now, to be inventive, to seek for more information, but for what, so later we can hold it back. I think not. I have chose not to have children, but if the day comes, I plan to most definitely teach my child what I know, and all I can to is to hope he or she will not be my student, but in the end be my suppresser.... And if a Hacker is not just a Programmer where did Cracker Jack come from... As 11 year old kids come to surpass what a 25 year old has learnt in a life time, all I can do is say that the world asked for it, minds growing faster everyday, and now they wish to put that mind in a cell behind bars. Technology advances as we do, fast and never ending. The search for more hard drive space, faster modems, better graphics, and a larger world wide web, leaves gaps in programs all because of time, getting something done faster, but hardly any better. And I feel that this will continue until either we, the human race, can admit what we are (curious) and let our ourselves go, or until information and hatred is suppressed to the point of us destroying ourselves..

January 11, 1998


A simple file written by aardwolf (age 15)

Understanding

Why do we waste our time trying to figure out how to beat the system? Cheat the toll? We pay nothing for these services, and our unknowing victims do. Even if they dont pay it, bell does. Dont you think we could be using out knowladge for a better cause? We complain about high prices, profitering gluttons, but we are the ones to blame. I do not say alot of them are plain out greedy, but are we any better? How would you like it if 10 years from now your working for bell, and 10% of your paycheck is taken out due to the huge increce in telecommunications fraud. 5 Billion in the past few years, you know what 5 billion could buy? Alot of homes for the homeless, or food for those without. Maybe Im going crazy, maybe I just had a sudden case of guilt. Maybe im just understanding it from their point of view. Whatever the reason Im just trying to say that we are destroying all that we stand for. Fooling the system is not making it any better for us, or anyone else. I hope you understand that one day...

In this cold, dark time, the fire that burns within ourselves brings no light to us or others


Ethics of a phreak
By: MorningDew (16)


While not everyone may agree with these ideas, I feel that these provide a basic ideal system for phreaks. Also realize this, you don't have to accept it or believe it but it's the truth. Phreaks, among others are responsible for the losses of over 3 million dollars from Bell. The phone companies are there to help phreaks, they are the reason we exist, so please have some respect for them and remember that they help you too. Well here they are

1. Don't exploit a family/group/person that is poor and cannot support themselves already.
2. Don't steal (If you so choose to do) anything from a lineman or any other phone company employee that they could not afford to replace.
3. Do not do anything that would damage a Bell Computer (or any other phone company) or do anything that would inhibit normal phone company operations.
4. Show some respect for the authorities (i.e. the police), for linemen and phone company employees, they may help you out someday, and teach you a thing or two.
5. Don't steal money or damage financial records of any phone company.
6. If you don't know what you are doing with some equipment or are in a place and you don't know what you are doing then leave things alone, you could damage things by accident that you shouldn't, or even kill yourself.


These are only a few basics, if you have any suggestions please mail them to MornyngDew@hotmail.com


The Ethics of a Phreak
By: Luna

The purge of a phone is not to be compared to that of Stalin's purges in Russia. At the death of Lenin, Stalin exiled Trotsky, put his goons in the politburo and proceeded to purge out the unfaithful through mass graves and the every tenth man method. At present we have a Mixed Economy in America, this being a conglomeration of French Socialism and Capitalism, and riddled with the Contract Theory or Exploitation Theory of Douglass North,(if you care to dispute this talk turkey with me later.) we have multibillionares, and empires based upon nothing more than who can trace their ancestors back farther. And I ask myself, as I always do; where does Falco come in, if Wolfgang Mozart ever heard 'Rock Me Amadeus' would he think it was cool? Do the neato numbers and letters on a car such as a Z 128, actually mean something? If one has a better relationship with their German Pen pal than their best friend mean that they are a freak? My point being, lest you have not been able to infer it is that, this is a strange and crazy world we live in. There are many problems and frustrations that we all must deal with, not just on a personal level, but also on a national and global level. Then I must really say, What kind of crime is it to phreak? Criminals, REAL criminals are given a free phone call. Hey, they even let E.T. phone home and those must have been some mad long distance charges. If E.T. could phone home, then why can't I? I myself may have never dipped into Ma Bell's wires for a little phun, but how can I condem an act that is on the grand scheme of things, insignificant. Does this bother you the reader, the phreak that I say your actions are insignificant? Even if you do a mad hack or whatever though I am sure it would boost the ego or distroy the American confidence in security, to what end is this a crime. Morally one could say that it is the ethics behind it. I simply say, they are charging us 35 cents for a phone call, for every legal phone call I make I am losing money I previously did not have toshell out to the monopoly that is Ma Bell, and damnit I Want My Quarter Back! As for the people that say such actions turn into bigger problems, they are the ones who usually say that education is paramont. The N-P-A is a conduit for information. Would those people then be opposed to this form of education? That would be an exception to the rules. If those wise sages really had education they would have remembered the words of Stanley P. Gudder in his book Quantum Probability_ that, 'A slight variation in axioms in a theory can result in a huge change at the frontier.' This is a simple argument, not necessarily for the phreak but for the political actors, and closeminded people out there who live in fear of 'those damn kids.' I leave you all with this thought from my favorite German poet Goethe, (although the true meaning of Goethe's Der Erlkoenig is sick and twisted) who was a man of incredible morals and character, 'It is a maximum of wise government to deal with men as they are, rather than as theyought to be.' PS- If you do read Goethe or most any german thinkers please les es doch auf Deutsch! (read it in German!)

Ethics and The Young Minds of Today
By-Jambi (age15)
NOTE: Please read this whole thing through before you judge it.

Today tomarrow and the next day, children our children and our grandchildren are forced to higher standards. A few years ago you could get a decent job with just a high school education, today you can get by with community college, tommarow you will be required to have a top education to be a burger flipper. Large multimillion dollar companies tired of screwing around with mom and pop operations, the personal side of buisness is lost. No one cares that you couldn't afford to go to college, they just want results, as fast and as cheap as possible. Hundreds of college educated minds in their little cubicles happily pounding out results quickly and cheaply. We work all our life starting in grade school to get good grades to be placed in good high school classes, working in high school to get good grades to go to a good college, go to a good college to get a good job, do good at your job to get what? More money? More possesions? What the hell ever happend to simplicity? It went to those big companies, sitting and watching us work, to make their companies larger, unstopable. For what? More money, more possesions. What about living life? Most of our life will be spent working to be able to work more. Then when we are old and decreped we can sit in our sun chairs wondering what the fuck have I done? What happened? Then we realize the chance we had at a real life is past so we just sit in our sun chairs to old and helpless to do anything about it, because we are already dead. Those mulitimilion dollar corperations wither us away day by day, some have realized what is happening and tried to change it. Everyone is brainwashed into beleiving whatever is fed to you, you no longer think for yourselfs, you think what you are told to think even at a subconcious level. Everyone is brainwashed to reject any forward going ideas that might harm these large money making machines. I'm sure many people think the Unibomber is nuts, but we are the ones who are nuts like some weird episode of the twilite zone. Infact he's the one thats got it right. I do not beleive that people needed to die but I am also not sure how else he could have gotten the point accross. People are caught in the flow of the flash flood of fourtune 500 organizations, and we, the workers that are the base of these organizations are starting to drown. People today are wondering what is wrong with these kids today that live in nice communities and have nice lives that just spontaniously kill people, seemingly with no cause. Its now happening all the time, whats wrong with those kids? They must be nuts. Whats wrong with you?!? You sit and watch the youth of today decay before your eyes and you blame it on drugs and rock music. You blame it on us. ON US! How dare you! Who the hell came up with drugs and rock music? We sure as hell didn't invent it. Who gave birth to us and tought us our ways? YOU DID. Hypocritical america ignoring the youth, THE FOUNDATION of tommarow. See if we give a fuck about you when your in a nursing home not even able to control your blatter functions let alone any giant organizations. Who will control them then? We will, we will control them because that is what was shouved down our throughts and that is what we will shouve down our childrens throughts. These huge organizations use us. They use us almost as a fuel to make their companies grow. They just throw some of us on the fire. Now ask yourself this considering all of what I have just told you. Who here has the lack of ethics. Us? The ones that refuse to pay for a long distance phone call, or use somones credit card to buy somthing that the card company will have to pay for? Or the tyranical organizations that use. That use to fuel their needless and meaningless growth. So, whats your answer ETHICAL PHREAK?



-Files on this topic-

A MIT Paper on hackers

-Others On This Topic-

Luna's Forum, phreak ethics and the law
NPA Files, More research
Phreak Ethics?

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