Aleister Crowley & Friends

Crowley Links
King James Quotations
Old/Middle/Early Modern English
More Connections
Weida Conference
Jack's Ritualistic Killings
More Old English
Crowley's Trial
Homosexuality, Scottish Ritual and Sheep
Scottish Sheep-free Indignation
Crowley in Weida
Mythos Crowley - Campaign Notes
More Ritualistic Killings
Nazis and Crowley
Ordo Templi Orientalis (or suchsame latin)
Mount Palomar, Adamski and UFO Connection
Stephenson
Alchemical Writing
Adolf in London
Crowley and Reuss
Book References
Jack's Modus Operandi Interpretations
More nazi/Crowley/Necronomicon Involvement
Nazis and Ghouls
Crowley and JFK Assassination, through PAPERCLIP


From: "Eric Brennan"

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:51:13 -0500

Here's a collection of links relating to the subject that are viewable by all. My next post, which hopefully players in my games will not view (JIM!) will have my notes on the subject for Con-X. As my campaign has some big Lovecraftian overtones as well as stuff ripped off whole-hog from Unknown Armies and DG, it should be easily convertible.

"Apparently Parsons and Hubbard or somebody is producing a moonchild. I get fairly frantic when I contemplate the idiocy of these louts."

--In a letter from Crowley to Karl Germer, re: their attempt to summon the Ho o' Babylon

"[The angel] carried my spirit away to the desert. I saw the scarlet woman sitting on the beast with seven heads and ten horns, covered with blasphemous names. The woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and gilded with gold and precious stones and pearls, with a golden cup in her hand filled with the abominations and the unclean things of her fornication. On her forehead a name had been written, 'A Mystery: Babalon the great, the mother of harlots and of the abominations of the earth.' I saw the woman was drunk from the blood of the saints, and from the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. Seeing her, I wondered greatly."

Revelation 17:3-6

Here's a list of Crowley/Hubbard/Parsons sites:

http://www.ezlink.com/~perry/Co$/Christian/crowley3.htm (Anti-Scientology site, some stuff)

http://www.babalon.net/Mitchell.html (is an except from a magazine article.)

http://www.crossfields.com/~watcher/bluey3.html (Is apparently an Anti-Scientology site, but goes into detail about the ritual. Use of the phrase "blind force" in conjunction with power of Age of Horus which suggests Azathoth, however. Parson's rocketry background which eventually led to our nuclear weapons program being miles ahead of the Russians, and the fact that he died as a result of dropping some nitroglycerin, suggest odd forces at work)

http://www.blather.net/archives2/issue2no26.html (paranormal web magazine with article on Parson's links to the Hellfire Club of his ancestor and Crowley, with lots of links and a previous issue about the \Hellfire Club.

Although inaccurate on a couple points, DG aficionados should have some fun with: http://www.fringeware.com/~hambone/arch/oto.html , as it talks briefly about Crowley's links with MI6 and his efforts to thwart Nazis, leading to some neat Karotechia seeds if you want `em. Also ties it into David Berkowitz.

http://www.brotherblue.org/libers/babalon.htm is an exhaustive site on the subject.

http://netropic.speakeasy.org/crowley/index.cgi has a ton of Crowley's books online. The neat thing about Crowley as a plot-device is some of his seminal works are as vague as Nostradamus, who did for bullshit what stonehenge did for rocks.

Also, I wholeheartedly recommend reading Andrew D. Gable's Black Cat of Kilakee post from earlier... The Hellfire Clubs are great places to use in your campaign if you want summonings that misfired centuries ago, links to the Freemasons, and possible hooks that tie into Jack the Ripper and all sorts of meanness. As an aside, the Black Cat's description sounds like Tivaloolo (I have no idea how it's spelled) a popular demon that was summoned quite often in the 18th and 19th century. The ritual wasn't complex...just torture and kill 200 cats. I'll provide more on that ritual if you want it...


From: "Jimmie Bise, Jr."

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:27:36 -0500

> Revelation 17:3-6

This stuff is way cooler when quoted from the King James Version of the Bible, too. somehow, Old English really lends an eerie but grandiose quality to the language. Erich, if you need a King James, I have one you can use indefinitely.

Also, I won't peek when those spoilers hit the list.


Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:51:53 -0800 (PST)

From: Chris Womack

Don't mind me, and don't take this personally, Jim, but too many years in grad school in English have conditioned me to the point where I just couldn't let this one pass:

[deletia]

> This stuff is way cooler when quoted from the King James Version of the
> Bible, too. somehow, Old English really lends an eerie but grandiose
> quality to the language.

[more deletia]

The King James Version of the Bible is not written in Old English (think _Beowulf_). Not even in Middle English (think Chaucer). It's written in Early Modern English, the same as Shakespeare (e.g.). If it were in one of the earlier dialects of English, its eeriness would dissolve not into grandiosity but into unintelligibility. (Although, granted, reading something as harmless as the Lord's Prayer in Old English would probably be a good way to creep your players out. ;) )

Now, a pathetic attempt to turn my pedantry into some useful advice for keepers: track down a chart showing the development of Indo-European languages (I've seen such things as "linguistic family trees" in better dictionaries, for example; libraries should have reference books containing them as well, if you can't find one on your home bookshelf). Armed with such a reference, feel free to drop obscure/dead dialects into your game at will. Nothing beats the feeling of being able to tell a player "Your character can't make heads or tails of that nasty-looking tome; the best he can determine is that it's written in Middle High German (or Old Church Slavonic, or whatever)." Sure, an Investigator may be fluent in French, but don't let the player automatically assume the char can read something written in  Anglo-Norman French in the early 12th century. This is where having that Friendly in the Romance Languages Dept. of the local university pays off. :)

(As for the Special K's desire to own the Gothic Necronomicon...)


Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:59:42 -0500 (EST)

From: "Andrew D. Gable"

> Although inaccurate on a couple points, DG aficionados should have some fun
> with: http://www.fringeware.com/~hambone/arch/oto.html , as it talks briefly
> about Crowley's links with MI6 and his efforts to thwart Nazis, leading to
> some neat Karotechia seeds if you want `em. Also ties it into David Berkowitz.

<interesting tidbit> In the 1910s and 1920s, Crowley wrote stateside propaganda for the Germans (found this out as I was doing research on the Crowley-Lam (and thus Grey) connection. Wonder what happened that soured him on the Germans? </interesting tidbit>

> Kilakee post from earlier... The Hellfire Clubs are great places to use in
> your campaign if you want summonings that misfired centuries ago, links to
> the Freemasons, and possible hooks that tie into Jack the Ripper and all
> sorts of meanness. As an aside, the Black Cat's description sounds like

Hook to JTR: one word (well, actually three). Roslyn d'Onston Stephenson. At the time of the killings (1888) Crowley was only 13 (IIRC), but Stephenson was great friends with Crowley in later years. Stephenson had beliefs similar to Crowley, and in fact Crowley himself had proclaimed that Stephenson was the Ripper, after his finding several ties (which seemed to have blood on them) in Stephenson's possession.

Of course, the (probably spurious) Freemason link is famous, as well.

Cthulhuvian links? Check out three of the murders, those of Ann Chapman, Catherine Eddowes, and especially Mary Kelly, for some odd features. In particular, the details of the Kelly murder seem as if it was some sort of ritualistic killing, and some have even pointed out an occult significance to JTR's 5 victims and the vaguely pentagramical (??) shape  formed when they're plotted on a map.

<warning>If you look up stuff on Mary Kelly, be warned the photo is quite... ahem... disturbing, especially when combined with knowledge of the coroner report. Eddowes less so.</warning>

BTW, I've seen teasers on the Internet for a computer game called The Black Dahlia, which seems to exploit these very same sorts of links. May want to pick this up someday and check it out. Has anyone ever played it? Is it any good?

> Tivaloolo (I have no idea how it's spelled) a popular demon that was
> summoned quite often in the 18th and 19th century. The ritual wasn't
> complex...just torture and kill 200 cats. I'll provide more on that ritual
> if you want it...

Hmm. This sounds rather like a Scottish ritual called Taghairm, which involved the burning alive of cats for four days, at the conclusion of which a demonic creature called Big Ears would appear and grant one wish to the caster (in exchange, of course, for his immortal soul). That ritual supposedly ceased as far back as the 1600s, however. If used in CoC/DG, here's a good way to get priests of Bast really P.O.'d. And everyone knows that being angry and having Mythos knowledge aren't a good combination.

The name you cite sounds vaguely like Flauros, the name of a demonic cat-lord described in demonology texts.

BTW, I saw a commercial last night which mentioned a Jewish synagogue in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., called Irem Temple. Should Wilkes-Barre-ites be concerned about the use of Kabbalic rituals to call up things Man Was Not Meant To See?


Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:14:11 -0500

From: Steven Kaye

><interesting tidbit> In the 1910s and 1920s, Crowley wrote stateside
>propaganda for the Germans (found this out as I was doing research on the
>Crowley-Lam (and thus Grey) connection. Wonder what happened that soured
>him on the Germans? </interesting tidbit>

FIRE AND ICE mentions something called the Weida Conference, involving Crowley's trip to Germany in 1925. The book makes it sound like Crowley was trying to set himself up as the head of a united front of occultist factions, which instead splintered as they argued about whether to follow him or not. Perhaps the debacle indirectly leads to a demand for volkisch magic, and ultimately to the foundation of the Karotechia?


Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:43:00 -0800

From: "Mark McFadden

>Cthulhuvian links? Check out three of the murders, those of Ann
>Chapman, Catherine Eddowes, and especially Mary Kelly, for some odd
>features. In particular, the details of the Kelly murder seem as if
>it was some sort of ritualistic killing, and some have even pointed
>out an occult significance to JTR's 5 victims and the vaguely
>pentagramical (??) shape formed when they're plotted on a map.

The pentagram shape was put to good use by Robert Bloch in "Yours Truly, Jack the Ripper".

The ritualistic killing method was another clue that seemed to point to the Masons. Those secretive buggers crop up everywhere. When Roberto Calvi (IIRC) was found hanging from a bridge in London with rocks in his pockets, submerged at high tide, the whole P2/Vatican Bank scandal acquired a Masonic bouquet.


Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:03:56 -0500

From: Daniel Harms

>This stuff is way cooler when quoted from the King James Version of the
>Bible, too. somehow, Old English really lends an eerie but grandiose
>quality to the language.

Not to pick on Jimmie, but the "Old English" thing is one of my pet peeves. Old English was spoken and written between about 600 and  1100, Middle English from 1100 and 1500, and more-or-less modern English from 1500 and on (covering both Shakespeare and the KJV). A work in Old English will be almost impossible for a person not educated on the subject to read, if the samples I've seen are any indication.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled traffic.


Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:25:02 -0500

From: Daniel Harms

>> Although inaccurate on a couple points, DG aficionados should have some fun
>> with: http://www.fringeware.com/~hambone/arch/oto.html , as it talks briefly
>> about Crowley's links with MI6 and his efforts to thwart Nazis, leading to
>> some neat Karotechia seeds if you want `em. Also ties it into David Berkowitz.

Just on GPs, for those who want to go completely hog-wild, here's the COMPLETE trial transcript of the Motta-Caliphate OTO fiasco:

http://www.hollyfeld.org/heaven/Text/Thelema/mottavoto.txt

><interesting tidbit> In the 1910s and 1920s, Crowley wrote stateside
>propaganda for the Germans (found this out as I was doing research on
>the Crowley-Lam (and thus Grey) connection. Wonder what happened
>that soured him on the Germans? </interesting tidbit>

Two possible answers that are not documented, but that have been floating around:

1) AC was actually working as an agent for British intelligence, as he claimed. In fact, former UFO investigator Jacques Vallee claimed to have seen Crowley's intelligence file, which included the directive "Use only with extreme caution."

2) At some point when Crowley was in Germany, he was beaten up by goons from the SA, precursor to the SS.


Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:17:43 -0600 (CST)

From: Tenebrous Technologies

>Crowley-Lam (and thus Grey) connection. Wonder what happened that soured
>him on the Germans? </interesting tidbit>

I'd reckon that whole anti-homosexuality thing..A.C. was a bit of a switch hitter..which was frowned on by the he-man Aryan philosophy.

>to JTR's 5 victims and the vaguely pentagramical (??) shape formed when
>they're plotted on a map.

but then again, it is easy to find shapes in anything...<cough>face on mars<cough>

>Hmm. This sounds rather like a Scottish ritual called Taghairm, which
>involved the burning alive of cats for four days, at the conclusion of
>which a demonic creature called Big Ears would appear and grant one wish
>to the caster

A Scottish ritual that .doesn't. involve sheep lovin' in some way!?!? ;P


From: "Christopher Williams"

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:04:38 BST

>A Scottish ritual that .doesn't. involve sheep lovin' in some way!?!? ;P

That's just a vicious slur put about by the English. It's the Welsh that _love_ their sheep.

The Scots love their _cows_...

ObDG: Genetic Weapons. MJ 12 has the Cookbook. MJ 12 has Deep One hybrids. Someone's developed an anti-Deep One bio-agent. MJ 12  wants to test it's new toy... The Deep Ones take offense. It's time  for the Greys vs. Frog Men face-off.


Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:28:59 -0500

From: Steven Kaye

>><interesting tidbit> In the 1910s and 1920s, Crowley wrote stateside
>>propaganda for the Germans (found this out as I was doing research on
>>the Crowley-Lam (and thus Grey) connection. Wonder what happened
>>that soured him on the Germans? </interesting tidbit>

FIRE AND ICE mentions something called the Weida conference, which happened in 1925. Crowley went to Germany after the translation of THE BOOK OF THE LAW to try and convince various magical groups to accept Thelema and to unite under his leadership (this according to FIRE AND ICE, mind).

Depending whose version you believe (and many of the participants are untrustworthy to one degree or another):

- Crowley came in good faith, invited to become leader of the united occult groups, saw his work purposefully mistranslated, was treated shamefully by his host, and said enough. Three guesses whose version this is.

- There was a split in...think it's the Pansophia Lodge at this point...some members were horrified by Crowley and his doctrine, others welcomed it but didn't want Crowley as the boss

Could all this hoo-hah have led to a demand for volkisch magical practice, and thus indirectly to the creation of the Karotechia?


From: "Eric Brennan" <aerainc@erols.com>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:53:48 -0500

I've removed a lot of the things that could spoil this for my players, but kept the point i.e. I've done some editing on this stuff to make it less Con X specific and more DG palatable. A simple caveat: I'm not a Crowley expert. I don't belong to OTO or anything Thelema this or Golden Dawn that. I certainly haven't done the research Pagan routinely does, but then again I'm not paid to, which would make a big difference.

The basic premise is this:

Aleister Crowley joined the Golden Dawn, which is actually a front for "other forces." These other forces can depend on the game. When the GD self-destructed, Aleister wanders around a bit. Eventually, several things happen: He is recruited by British Intelligence to bleed German occultists of information, he forms the OTO, he spreads his, uh, gospel.

Eventually, Jack Parsons gets involved. To put it bluntly, Parsons buys into everything Crowley says. He eventually meets a guy by the name of Lafayette Ronald Hubbard. Hubbard (and if there's a Scientologist on the list, forgive me for blaspheming the "man") is a con-artist at heart. A lot of evidence at the time points to him pulling a grift on the Army fordisability. While he doesn't really know anything about magic(k) he does know how to listen and nod at the right times, and agree with what Parson's got to say, which is key. They both talk about the Bible, and discuss Crowley's coming Age of Horus. They see a link between the Book of Revelations and the Age of Horus, and see the negative light of Revelations as merely Christian propaganda.

Parsons, all this time, has some money. That's really what Hubbard is after. (Or he could be a Mask of Nyarlathotep. I'll tie Scientology to the Mythos a bit later...) But, Hubbard sees the true power in what Crowley has taught Parsons (or what Parsons has learned.) They create a plan to summon a moonchild, which they said means a "Scarlet Woman," to either a) embody Babalon or b) have a child, whose soul will be forced out by Babalon. Accounts differ and I'm not clear on which is which.

Crowley gets wind of this and thinks the two are morons. But just in case, he alerts allies in British intelligence interested in the occult. Crowley naturally would've been at odds with the Thule, and it's an easy jump to assume that he would know something of the "covert, occult war" that DG and the Brits fought against the Nazis. While not important now, eventually DG will decide Parsons is too loose a cannon, and five years after the Babalon summoning will arrange for Parsons to "drop" some nitroglycerin in his barn/lab. End of problem.

So they do the summoning, which is successful. A scarlet woman enters into their life, Hubbard steals her after ripping Parsons off in Florida, they steal a boat to get away from him, Parsons summons a storm which brings them back to Florida, he gets a little of his money back, he eventually meets another Scarlet woman, he dies tragically.

But, going with an idea I brought up on the Catholicism thread, within the ritual to summon up a Scarlet woman is "masked" a ritual to really bring forth a symbol feminine power over men...the ability to propitiate her foul race, the ability to excite lusts and manipulate power. Call her Shub-Niggurath, call her Lilith, whatever. But beneath the California desert, a piece of her power manifests in the form of a hideous womb. From the womb springs forth foul births, which cultists hiding under and within various cities transport. Over the years, these colonies of Lililm begin to spread.

Meanwhile, besides the Womb, Lilith/Shub-Niggurath/babalon begins to "innocently" corrupt those around her. Twenty years after the initial summoning, a madman and his "family" travel to the same area of the desert, springing forth only to murder. Sharon Tate's innocent, unborn babe completes the misunderstood moonchild ritual, spelling the true beginning to the Age of Horus. The End Times. Across the country, serial killings increase as the madness of Lilith spreads. Odd behaviors begin to appear. Memories of false satanic abuse begin to pop up, actually dream images of the Babalon beneath the sands. And in covens and cults all across the country, the Lililm rejoice, for the great birthing is at hand.

And Hubbard, who DG underestimated all those years ago by ignoring, has set up a religion whose very purpose is to gather temporal power. To convert the famous and powerful. A religion who's members have bugged the offices of the FBI, driven to destruction hundreds of individuals. A religion that is a financial mystery cult. To see it's highest level texts, you must pay a 1000 dollars an hour. These texts will push a person into an enlightened state, and have been known to cure/cause insanity. Many of the religions tenets are borrowed from Crowley, who borrowed from the Golden Dawn, who borrowed from a mystic named Alzis in the 1860s.

And at it's heart, the religion says that the religions worshipper's are people who are "enlightened souls from beyond space and time," and that any who oppose you should be stopped by any means necessary. Think about it


From: "Eric Brennan" <aerainc@erols.com>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:31:47 -0500

>Hook to JTR: one word (well, actually three). Roslyn d'Onston Stephenson.
>At the time of the killings (1888) Crowley was only 13 (IIRC), but
>Stephenson was great friends with Crowley in later years. Stephenson had
>beliefs similar to Crowley, and in fact Crowley himself had proclaimed
>that Stephenson was the Ripper, after his finding several ties (which
>seemed to have blood on them) in Stephenson's possession.

>Of course, the (probably spurious) Freemason link is famous, as well.

Oh, that's awesome. I've got to check that out...Are there any sources?

>BTW, I've seen teasers on the Internet for a computer game called The
>Black Dahlia, which seems to exploit these very same sorts of links.
>May want to pick this up someday and check it out. Has anyone ever played
>it? Is it any good?

I don't know. From the title it sounds like it's based on the Black Dahlia slaying in LA about 50 years ago, and I saw photos of that which almost made me hurl. The Black Dahlia, should've definitely been worked into my LA ideas, damn. I'll have to add it.

>The name you cite sounds vaguely like Flauros, the name of a demonic
>cat-lord described in demonology texts.

I knew I remembered it from somewhere! Andrew, you are now officially designated my back-up memory. I believe Big Ears, now that we mention it, is indeed Tivaloolo. The copy of the ritual I saw in a book of faery lore involved slitting cat throats, but now that I think about it, another ritual is indeed the Taghairm. I heard the ritual had been performed in the 1800s by a pair of British spiritualists, and that it was successful.


Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:14:49 -0500 (EST)

From: "Andrew D. Gable"

> FIRE AND ICE mentions something called the Weida Conference, involving
> Crowley's trip to Germany in 1925. The book makes it sound like Crowley was
> trying to set himself up as the head of a united front of occultist
> factions, which instead splintered as they argued about whether to follow
> him or not. Perhaps the debacle indirectly leads to a demand for volkisch
> magic, and ultimately to the foundation of the Karotechia?

The Nazis probably weren't too endeared to Crowleyan thought, what with the use of German occultist Guido von List's ideas, along with a uniquely "non-Aryan" flavor. Especially since the Germans didn't like the English too much in the WWII era. Plus, Hitler could have easily seen Crowley's leadership of this occult alliance as a major obstacle to his own power.

Although the timing's a bit hard to work out, as Hitler (IIRC) didn't become Chancellor until 1933.

Note to self: Check out references on Crowley's Abramelin experiment. IIRC, he did that in Vienna or something. He supposedly contacted some spirits he called "Abramelin sprites," using rites (you guessed it) out of The Book of Abra-Melin the Mage.


Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:35:11 -0500 (EST)

From: "Andrew D. Gable"

> Aleister Crowley joined the Golden Dawn, which is actually a front for
> "other forces." These other forces can depend on the game. When the GD
> self-destructed, Aleister wanders around a bit. Eventually, several things
> happen: He is recruited by British Intelligence to bleed German occultists
> of information, he forms the OTO, he spreads his, uh, gospel.

AFAIK, Crowley didn't form the OTO. It was already formed - in Germany (back to the Crowley-MI6 connection). Crowley was inducted by...dang, can't remember his name. It's in the Keeper's Compendium, where there's a brief little biography of Crowley along with the Golden Dawn stuff. I believe, however, he may have changed the organization somewhat.

I once saw an account (I could swear it was in one of Vallee's books, but I can't track it down) which said that Parsons had alien contact in the Mojave.

Also, I was tossing about some ideas about the OTO's (at least Parsons' branch) holding Mount Palomar to be sacred. Isn't it odd, then, that probably the first publicized alien contact (George Adamski, in 1949 (IIRC)) took place on that very mountain?

> Crowley gets wind of this and thinks the two are morons. But just in
> case, he alerts allies in British intelligence interested in the occult.

PISCES? Or G-19? Maybe Crowley had a shan? Would explain his...ahem...bizarre sexual habits.

> DG and the Brits fought against the Nazis. While not important now,
> eventually DG will decide Parsons is too loose a cannon, and five years
> after the Babalon summoning will arrange for Parsons to "drop" some
> nitroglycerin in his barn/lab. End of problem.

When I made the connections, I said that Parsons was a member of (or at least researcher for) MJ-12, more specifically SSG-2 (Project Redlight). He was offed by Majestic after he flipped out a bit after discovering what the aliens were up to.

> "innocently" corrupt those around her. Twenty years after the initial
> summoning, a madman and his "family" travel to the same area of the desert,
> springing forth only to murder. Sharon Tate's innocent, unborn babe
> completes the misunderstood moonchild ritual, spelling the true beginning to
> the Age of Horus.

Hmm. I never contemplated a Manson connection to this (well, I have, but...). If you choose to play up this link, I'd work on something about Manson's alleged "psychic" powers. I believe I saw somewhere something which claimed he was part of MKULTRA, or somesuch.

> Memories of false satanic abuse begin to pop up, actually dream images of
> the Babalon beneath the sands. And in covens and cults all across the
> country, the Lililm rejoice, for the great birthing is at hand.

Just an aside. In a mythology book, I saw a Babylonian seal depicting a Child of Lilith. Very much like the emblamatic animal of the cult in "The Hound." Although according to legend, they're all malformed in varying ways...harken back to the pseudo-Biblical Nephilim legend.

> enlightened state, and have been known to cure/cause insanity. Many of the
> religions tenets are borrowed from Crowley, who borrowed from the Golden
> Dawn, who borrowed from a mystic named Alzis in the 1860s.

Ah! Very nice! Alzis-as-UberCrowleyan? Crowley's "mentor"? Nice idea. Somewhat explains that pesky longevity thing...

As a final wrap-up, I don't know if you've seen my site with the Crowley-Parsons-et. al. links, if you haven't check it out, you might find something of interest (I'm planning on adding to it rather heavily in the future - maybe even make it sort of an UberResource for Crowley-Cthulhu links). It's

http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/arkham/80/mythos.html


From: "Eric Brennan"

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:33:36 -0500

>I once saw an account (I could swear it was in one of Vallee's books, but
>I can't track it down) which said that Parsons had alien contact in the Mojave.

I didn't include that as it was going to pop into my game ;) But yes, Parsons definitely claimed an alien encounter.

>Also, I was tossing about some ideas about the OTO's (at least Parsons'
>branch) holding Mount Palomar to be sacred. Isn't it odd, then, that
>probably the first publicized alien contact (George Adamski, in 1949
>(IIRC)) took place on that very mountain?

Mt Palomar has a large camp ground where denizens of the San Diego school system get to go in 6th grade. Palomar has a rich, rich occult folklore, with fairy sightings and a grey-like creature called "the Wierd."

>When I made the connections, I said that Parsons was a member of (or
>at least researcher for) MJ-12, more specifically SSG-2 (Project
>Redlight). He was offed by Majestic after he flipped out a bit after
>discovering what the aliens were up to.

I pondered this, but figured he was offed by DG. DG would be very worried about his occult knowledge falling into Grey hands, and with Parsons being exposed to their tech...

 >Hmm. I never contemplated a Manson connection to this (well, I have,
>but...). If you choose to play up this link, I'd work on something about
>Manson's alleged "psychic" powers. I believe I saw somewhere something
>which claimed he was part of MKULTRA, or somesuch.

A lot of guys who have been nailed for serial killing have MKUltra problems, partly due to drug use in the '60s and partly due to the fact that it tends to link disparate acts together. Another common way to bind MKUltra to Manson is to say that the Process Church, a dualistic Christian off-shoot blamed for many odd conspiratorial doings, was a front for CIA MKUltra experiments, a claim I've heard. Manson claimed he had some ties (since 'disproved') to the Church. The Satanic tinge to certain other killers allows you to add them all together through the Process Church. The Zodiac Killer in San Francisco, Berkowitz, even (if you want to stretch) Richard Ramirez, aka the Night Stalker. Berkowitz claimed he was under mind control when he committed his crimes, but never brought it up in court... The Zodiac Killer was never caught, but used occult symbols in his murders, and there are some wierd threads out there claiming he was an occult hitman. Of course, the Process Church could be a front for the Lililm, which the CIA unwittingly tapped into...

>Ah! Very nice! Alzis-as-UberCrowleyan? Crowley's "mentor"? Nice idea.
>Somewhat explains that pesky longevity thing...

Well, I saw a hole that Alzis would fit into...

>As a final wrap-up, I don't know if you've seen my site with the
>Crowley-Parsons-et. al. links, if you haven't check it out, you might find
>something of interest (I'm planning on adding to it rather heavily in the
>future - maybe even make it sort of an UberResource for Crowley-Cthulhu
>links). It's

>http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/arkham/80/mythos.html

Love the page! I've been borrowing a lot of ideas from sites I've found and plan on adding the Sons of Yezm and the Hand of Sedna.


Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:41:35 -0500 (EST)

From: "Andrew D. Gable"

> >Stephenson was great friends with Crowley in later years. Stephenson had
> >beliefs similar to Crowley, and in fact Crowley himself had proclaimed
> >that Stephenson was the Ripper, after his finding several ties (which
> >seemed to have blood on them) in Stephenson's possession.
> Oh, that's awesome. I've got to check that out...Are there any sources?

Not much. I found some stuff on

http://ripper.wildnet.co.uk/

probably the best JTR site on the Net, and run by an acquaintance of mine. Anyway, in an interview with a British Ripperologist (can't remember his name offhand), it's said that Robert d'Onston Stephenson worked as a medic during an Italian war going on in 1861 (not up on Italian history - what might this have been, Davide? He was in the Southern Army of Italy, rather odd in itself since he was British). Pertinent records, kept at Bishopsgate, London, revealed that Stephenson was indeed part of the army. Any thoughts on why all the records of an Italian war would be kept in England?

Anyhow, he used the pen-name Tautriadelta (Pentalapha), the Triple Triangle of Pythagoras, an occultist symbol. Apparently, JTR had a great love of this shape, as well.

That's all that's interesting in the interview, except for the fact three seperate addresses were found for Stephenson, and he was hospitallized at the London Hospital in Whitechapel at the time of the killings. Stephenson claimed he'd been shot by smugglers, but evidently this was spurious. I wonder what he was hospitallized for...? Syphilis, knowing those guys.

I read another reference which says that d'Onston also disappeared, or left London, or something, soon after Mary Kelly's murder. Odd.

Anyhow, I'll check Sugden's COMPLETE HISTORY OF JACK THE RIPPER tomorrow. That may have more and probably does.

BTW, there is (at least was) stuff on the website by me concerning JTR-IRA/Fenian links, which could be used as yet another link to the Hellfire Club. If they're not there and you're interested, contact me off-list as they're not strictly DG-relevant (although I can put them on the list if anyone's interested).

> I don't know. From the title it sounds like it's based on the Black
> Dahlia slaying in LA about 50 years ago, and I saw photos of that which
> almost made me hurl. The Black Dahlia, should've definitely been worked
> into my LA ideas, damn. I'll have to add it.

Yes, the BD murder is interesting (and rather gory). Look into the history of Elizabeth Short, the victim...apparently, there was a medical problem which prohibited her from having sexual intercourse. That could probably be significant to the Parsons/OTO link.

Also, I'd recommend you look at the date the BD murder occurred (or at least that the body was found): January 15, 1947. Now look at the date Parsons' Babalon Working ended: January 15, 1946. Eerie, eh?

> I heard the ritual had been performed in the 1800s by a pair of British
> spiritualists, and that it was successful.

Close. The last known (and I stress known for DG use) occurrence of Taghairm was recounted in an English newspaper in 1824, was performed by two occultists (Lachlan MacLean and...someone else, another MacLean I believe). It was, indeed, reported to be successful. Big Ears told the MacLeans they would never look upon the face of God. Anyway, the ritual occurred in the 1600s. It just wasn't reported for 200 years (!! why?).


Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:40:00 -0800

From: "Mark McFadden

>PISCES? Or G-19? Maybe Crowley had a shan? Would explain
>his...ahem...bizarre sexual habits.

Pretty pedestrian by Southern California standards, actually. He just did them longer, better and with a different goal. Read up on the "Alchemical Marriage of Rose and Cross". You'll find that most of   European alchemical writings were poetic metaphors and codes for Tantric practices, hiding meaning and precise instructions to

a) Protect the author

b) Dissuade the casual or thrillseeking reader

c) Write about illegal acts (like the all-encompassing "sodomy")

Read Chapter 69 in "The Book of Lies", 'nuff said.

This all ties in with Templars, Hassan i Sabah, Rosicrucians and Masons. Alchemy wasn't about making gold, "gold" was another metaphor, but one easily (mis)understood by outsiders and Inquisitors.


Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:39:00 -0800

From: "Mark McFadden

> FIRE AND ICE mentions something called the Weida Conference,
>involving Crowley's trip to Germany in 1925.

On a possibly related note: I can't remember where I picked up the  factoid, but didn't Adolf visit London in 1923? I remember this purely because of that synchronistic 23.


Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:00:57 -0500

From: Daniel Harms

Chris - if this is getting too far off-topic, shoot me down. A response to a few OTO-related posts.

>Crowley was inducted by...dang, can't remember his name.

Theodor Reuss, in 1910. It happened something like this (cue flashback):

REUSS: Mister Crowley, I'm Theodor Reuss of the OTO. You've been revealing our rituals in your works, and you must stop.

CROWLEY: Revealing rituals? I've never heard of you.

REUSS: (takes down a copy of Crowley's BOOK OF LIES from the shelf, and points to a passage) Then what's this?

CROWLEY: Wow! I never contemplated the esoteric significance of that passage. Thanks!

REUSS: (under his breath) Damn. (louder) Er, how would you like to be head of our new British division?

>I believe, however, he may have changed the organization somewhat.

Quite a bit, actually. From what little I've seen, Reuss intended the OTO to be partly a socialist project. Crowley re-wrote the rituals and decided that its tenets should be based on his _Book of the Law_, which leads us to...

>FIRE AND ICE mentions something called the Weida Conference,
>involving Crowley's trip to Germany in 1925. The book makes it sound
>like Crowley was trying to set himself up as the head of a united front of
>occultist factions, which instead splintered as they argued about whether
>to follow him or not.

Basically, after Reuss died, Crowley was appointed as the head (maybe).

However, at this conference some OTO members balked at Crowley's ways and his insistence on the importance of the Book of the Law. The group split into three factions: the OTO under Metzger, which rejected it outright (still active in Switzerland, if what I hear is accurate); the Fraternitas Saturni under Eugen Grosche, which accepted Crowley but broke due to personality conflicts (still active in Germany), and Crowley's OTO (still active, though split into many factions).

> Perhaps the debacle indirectly leads to a demand for
>volkisch magic, and ultimately to the foundation of the Karotechia?

Keepers should note that many of those involved with the orders mentioned above were persecuted by the Nazi regime, and some members (such as Karl Germer and Eugen Grosche) were imprisoned in concentration camps due to their membership.

>Note to self: Check out references on Crowley's Abramelin experiment.
>IIRC, he did that in Vienna or something. He supposedly contacted some
>spirits he called "Abramelin sprites," using rites (you guessed it) out of
>The Book of Abra-Melin the Mage.

It was done at Boleskine, his house on Loch Ness, which was later owned by Jimmy Page and now has been turned into a bread and breakfast. See _The Confessions of Aleister Crowley_ for more info.


Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:20:06 -0500 (EST)

From: "Andrew D. Gable"

References: On pp. 690-691 of the CONFESSIONS, Aleister Crowley gives a  run-down of the Stephenson/JTR saga. Although he never names him as such, it's obvious he's speaking of Stephenson. He mentions the tie incident. Crowley claims there were seven victims, each killed in a strategic spot that plots out a seven-pointed Cavalric cross, whatever that may be, pointing towards the west: some sort of occult symbol, I reckon. Also, he claims that there were London papers which accused Crowley himself of being the Ripper: evidently they couldn't do their math, as Crowley was only 13 at the time of the murders.

Surprisingly, Philip Sugden's COMPLETE HISTORY OF JACK THE RIPPER didn't even mention Stephenson. In addition, a television documentary on JTR (have it on tape, have to check it out) mentions Stephenson quite a bit.

Since probably not too many people on the list are Ripperologists, here's a run-down of the Mary Kelly murder, especially its aftermath, as its strangest and possibly most occult points come out then. Pshaw. As I sit here checking out the book, I notice that the photo of Mary Kelly still makes me feel like retching even though I've seen it many, many times.

Anyhow, onto "occult" features.

1) The coroner reported that, badly as Kelly was mutilated, her heart was the only organ missing without a trace. Eerie in conjunction with 2.

2) *Something* had been burned in Kelly's fireplace with such ferocity that it melted a metal teapot. Any occult significance to burning hearts?

3) Kelly's face was completely obliterated, except for her eyes (another apparent JTR fixation). Doorways to the soul and all, I guess.

4) According to some sources, she reputedly was pregnant at the time of the murder. If so, where was the fetus?

5) Oddly, a police official (can't think of his name, dang it!) was present at the murder site, although said official wasn't actual on the police force, and definitely not the JTR division. In fact, he told detectives to report *certain facts* (don't know what, don't ask) about the case to him rather than Sir Charles Warren, top dog at Scotland Yard at that point. Said official's duty was to "look into a Fenian plot to assassinate Mr. ??? in Scotland Yard." Maybe a Hellfire Club tie-in? And oddly, Warren resigned shortly after the murder.

6) The letters FM were supposedly written in blood on Kelly's wall.

7) Most oddly...Mary Kelly was seen, walking down the street and quite ill, at 10:30 AM by several witnesses. Most odd, as the coroner placed Kelly's time of death at 4:30 AM.

8) The coroner committed suicide a brief time later by jumping from a window. What did he find?

9) One last Kelly-related oddity: during the 1980s (IIRC), Mary Kelly was given a new gravestone, and a quite large one, too. Supposedly, it was constructed by a British Ripperologist who claimed to be one of Kelly's descendants.

As if you can't tell, I'm rather interested in good ol' Jacky-Boy.

Looking back, I guess this might be somewhat off-topic. But I think it fits in with the occultist-Crowleyan JTR links pretty well.


Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:15:00 -0800

From: "Mark McFadden

>2) *Something* had been burned in Kelly's fireplace with such
>ferocity that it melted a metal teapot. Any occult significance to
>burning hearts?

You betcha by golly. Kind of universal, too. I'm also reminded of Byron retrieving Shelley's heart from the funeral pyre, unburned. Even if there were no occult significance, there is a strong subconscious significance...which would inevitably be expressed through occult ritual.

>3) Kelly's face was completely obliterated, except for her eyes
>(another apparent JTR fixation). Doorways to the soul and all, I guess.

Don't discount the belief of the time that the eyes of a corpse hold an image of the last thing seen before death. Citizen X believed that folk story, it was his only reason for mutilating eyes.

>8) The coroner committed suicide a brief time later by jumping from a
>window. What did he find?

The definition of defenestration.

>Looking back, I guess this might be somewhat off-topic. But I think
>it fits in with the occultist-Crowleyan JTR links pretty well.

The JTR murders were a significant historical event. Saucy Jack became the standard by which serial murder (a phenomena virtually unknown 'til Jack put Whitechapel on the map) is judged. The murders were a political hot potato because discussing them meant discussing Whitechapel, and prostitution and poverty and what the Industrial Revolution had done to London. And to England. Springheel Jack's legacy of mystery and conspiracy ranks right up there with JFK. Everything changed.


From: pkapera

Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 03:40:09 -0800

>2) *Something* had been burned in Kelly's fireplace with such ferocity
>that it melted a metal teapot. Any occult significance to burning hearts?

In one of the various Ripper books I perused, I found a police statement to the effect that the teapot had been sitting upon (and subsequently melted into) a *wooden* table...

...which was unscathed.

Go figure.


Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:28:47 -0800 (PST)

From: Doug Iannelli

I recently read an excellent source that draws all of these subjects together in a factual, historical work.

The book is entitled, "UNHOLY ALLIANCE: A History of Nazi Involvement with the Occult" by Peter Levenda. It's a trade paperback published in 95 by Avon Books and is still available in most good mainstream bookstores in the occult section.

The back-page teaser reads as follows:

"From Death's Head to skinhead - seven decades of pure evil. The Reich was to stand for a thousand years on the firm foundation of Adolf Hitler's policies of terror, brutal repression and genocide. In their attempt to create an invincible empire, the Nazi High Command actively pursued forbidden ancient knowledge . . .and freely embraced the powers of Darkness.

Author Peter Levenda has personally translated numerous Nazi documents relating to the exploitation of the occult for political and military purposes. He has breached the inner sanctum of Colonia Dignidad, the Nazi's hidden refuge in South America, which remains in operation to this day. And he has compiled a chilling and comprehensive history of a would-be Master Race's slavish devotion to Satanism, human sacrifice, Black Magic and the secret delights of Hell.

It began with the Necronomicon and ended in the Andes Mountains four years later: a search for the roots of the evil that has corrupted our century. From Satanism to Swastika, and back to Hell itself, Peter Levenda has come full circle with UNHOLY ALLIANCE."

This book pretty much ties it all together and is well-documented, although how much is fringe science and how much is fact is anyone's guess. He mentions HPL in fact, and that author's effect on the mythology of the Master Race.

All told, this book is an excellent resource material of factual dates and names, programs, and Nazi occult-oriented operations as well as the atmosphere of the occult globally just prior to and during WWII.

Nearly every factually-based Karotechia member mentioned in the DG sourcebook is expounded upon here, as well as Crowley and the surviving Nazi's of South America (although Pagan did a little country-switching).

Well, just thought I'd share this with you all.


From: Ford Benjamin

Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:13:19 +1000

If anyone else was intrigued as I was by the mention of a Nazi colony in Chile, as described in Levender's "Unholy Alliance", they could refer to this report in the Seattle Times:

http://www.seattle-times.com/news/nation-world/html98/dign_040398.html

Apparently the leader of the community is on the run and may be hiding in the tunnels beneath the compound. There is also mention of a hidden cemetery for the remains of torture victims.

ObDG (so obvious, I fear to say it): Karotechia stronghold with connections to a local ghoul population? Or an expatriate German Mordiggian cult? Of course the tunnels beneath the compound could have one of those gates to the Dreamlands through which the missing leader has fled.

ObDG: has anyone considered the possibility of an unholy alliance between the Karotechia and the Nordics (aka the Brotherhood of the Yellow Sign)? Given the Nazi mythology of the superiority of the pure Aryan race, and the unnatural powers demonstrated by the Nordics in encounters such as those described in field Report 3047 (Addendum) (located at http://www.delta-green.com/rf_3047a.html for those with access), what Neo-Nazi thug would fail to be impressed?

I'm leaning towards a takeover by the BoYS of certain localised elements of the Karotechia for use as expendable muscle in their campaign against the sky devils. What happens next is up to the malicious imagination of the Keeper: DG agents investigating odd crimes committed by NeoNazi skinheads find leads going two ways, towards alien space brothers in one direction and a Nazi occult conspiracy in the other. Divide and conquer, oh my! Depending on the needs of the game, the Nazi pawns may or may not have recollection of their moonlighting: this can lead the Karotechia leadership to investigate why one of their cells has gone silent or why it seems to be engaging in unsanctioned operations. All this is dependent on how the K works in your world. A DG team investigating the odd behaviour of a gang of skins could run into the K's version of a cleaner team.


Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:23:41 -0500 (EST)

From: "Andrew D. Gable"

Given the recent discussions on Crowley, the OTO, and JHVH alone knows what else, I thought this little bit discovered a short time back might be of interest. This was tucked away in the gazetteer of UFO sightings in the back of Jacques Vallee's _Passport to Magonia_.

It describes a close encounter which took place in 1896 in the Alps near the town of Zermatt, Switzerland, in the southern section near the Italian border and quite near the Matterhorn. Said encounter was an "average" CE3 (man sees aliens, man moves, aliens run off). But the witness? Aleister Crowley. Interesting. As an aside which would make it fit very well, does anyone know if good ol' L. Ron ever claimed an encounter?

I discovered some interesting documents last night on the Internet, hotbed of conspiracy that it is, alleging links between the JFK assassination and the UFO/Paperclip mythos. It purported to show links between Clay Shaw and Guy Bannister (watch _JFK_ to find out who they were) to UFO sightings. According to the documents, Guy Bannister had reported a sighting in Twin Falls, Idaho in 1947, and Clay Shaw was supposedly a military agent attached to Paperclip. He supposedly had many aerospace contacts (Parsons??), and in fact one was said to have been involved with the Maury Island, Washington incident (although that may be a hoax). Neat.


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