the Welsh patronmy ap Rhys from the FitzUryan line

Wales -> England (mid to late 1400s)
Please note that this is one of the especially QUESTIONABLE lines on this site. REASON #1: This ancestry of Robert Royce (My 10th & 11th Great Grandfather, 4x over) is only the most frequently seen of various proposed ancestries. REASON #2: The details of this particular line change depending on the source used.
Connection on 11th/12th GG and up is from e-familytree.net mostly and is very suspect, so much so that I do not include the info on the main page tree. It even has that Robert Royce was born 1603 even though his father Thomas died about 1600, not to mention the moving back and forth within England for a few generations.
Most info from 13th/14th to 16th/17th from Jamie D. Allen's Family Tree and Ancient Genealogical Allegations (JDA) (so bear in mind all his warnings), e-familytree.net & Royal and Noble Genealogical Data on the Web (Hull). Information from 16th/17th to 27th/28th from JDA & Hull. Then additional connection from 27th/28th to 33rd/34th only from Hull.

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My 33rd & 34th Great Grandfather (4x over), Uryan Reged, Lord of Kedwelly.
Married Margaret La Faye (dau. of Gerolus/Gerlois).
Lord of Carunilou & Iskennen, South Wales.
See also Uryan Reged, Lord of Kedwelly.
My 32nd & 33rd Great Grandfather (4x over), Pasgen.
See also Pasgen.
My 31st & 32nd Great Grandfather (4x over), Mott.
See also Mott.
My 30th & 31st Great Grandfather (4x over), Larch.
See also Larch.
My 29th & 30th Great Grandfather (4x over), Rhyne.
See also Rhyne.
My 28th & 29th Great Grandfather (4x over), Cecilt.
See also Cecilt.
My 27th & 28th Great Grandfather (4x over), Gwrwared/Gurwared.
See also Gurwared.
My 26th & 27th Great Grandfather (4x over), Cynhaethwy/Cynhachthwy/Kynhathwye ap Gwrwared.
See also Kynhathwye.
My 25th & 26th Great Grandfather (4x over), Llywarch/Lloarch ap Cynhaethwy.
Two Children:
  • Elidir Marchog ap Llywarch
  • Einion ap Llwarch

See also Lloarch.
My 24th & 25th Great Grandfather (4x over), Einion/Eynion ap Llwarch, Lord of Kidwelly.
Married Ann verch Llewellyn (dau. of Llewellyn Fawr ap Cydifor & Elen verch Caradog).
See also Eynion, Lord of Kidwelly.
My 23rd & 24th Great Grandfather (4x over), Gronwy ap Einion, Lord of Iskennen.
Married Lliwelydd verch Einion (dau. of Einion Clud ap Madog).
Two Children:
  • Janet verch Goronwy
  • Rhys ap Gronwy

See also Gronwey, Lord of Iskennen.
My 22nd & 23rd Great Grandfather (4x over), Rhys ap Gronwy of Iskesses.
Married Margaret (dau. of Lord Gruffydd of Gwynvay).
See also Rhys of Iskesses.
My 21st & 22nd Great Grandfather (4x over), Elidir/Elidar ap Rhys of Iskennen.
Married Gwladus/Gwladys verch Philip (dau. of Philip ap Y Bach aka Philip ap Bah).
See also Elidar of Iskennen.
My 20th & 21st Great Grandfather (4x over), Sir Elidir/Elidar Ddu/Ddy ap Elidir.
Married either A) ? verch Madog Hyddgam (dau. of Madog Hyddgam ap Madog & Efa verch Madog) or B) Cicely (dau. of Siscilte ap Hyn, the son of Morithigne, Lord of Cantresclife).
Knight of the Sepulchre.
See also Sir Elidar Ddy.
My 19th & 20th Great Grandfather (4x over), Philip/Phillip ap Elidir/Elidar FitzUryan.
Married Gwaldus/Gwladys verch Daffyd/Daffydd Fras/fras (dau. of David Fras ap Einion, aka Daffydd fras of Cydweli & Elen verch Meurig Trwyn).
See also Phillip ap Elidar FitzUryan.
My 18th & 19th Great Grandfather (4x over), Nicholas ap Philip/Phillip FitzUryan.
Born abt. 1367. Married Joan/Jonet verch Gruffudd/Gruffydd (dau. of Gruffydd/Gruffydd ap Gwilym/Llywelyn voethus & Generys verch Madoc).
See also Nicholas ap Phillip FitzUryan.
My 17th & 18th Great Grandfather (4x over), Gruffudd ap Nicholas FitzUryan.
Married 1st to Mabel verch Maredydd (she was b. abt. 1399, dau. of Maredydd/Maredudd ap Henry Dwnn/Dwyn & Mallt verch Gruffydd). Married 2nd to Margaret Perrot. Married 3rd Joan verch Jenkin. Died 2 Feb 1461 at the Battle of Mortimers Cross.
Four Children:
    Three son's with Mabel:
  • ?
  • ?
  • Thomas
    one daughter with Joan:
  • Mabel

See also Gruffydd ap Nicholas FitzUryan.
My 16th & 17th Great Grandfather (4x over), Thomas 'Hynaf' ap Gruffydd FitzUryan
Born Abt. 1423 at Wales. Married Abt. 1449 at Wales to Elizabeth/Elsbeth Op Griffith/Gruffydd (she was b. Abt. 1425 at Wales and d. Aft. 1450 at Wales, dau. of Sir John Griffith/Gruffydd & Catherine Tyrwhitt). Died Aft. 1450, or Abt. 1474, at Wales.
See also Thomas ap Gruffydd FitzUryan.
My 15th & 16th Great Grandfather (4x over), Rhys ap Thomas FitzUryan.
Born Abt. 1449/50/51 at Wales. Married 1st Abt. 1473 at Wales to either A) Eva/Eve verch Gwillian/Gwilliam (she was b. Abt. 1452 at Wales and d. Aft. 1475 at Wales) or B) Efa verch Henry (dau. of Henry ap Gwilym). Married 2nd to Joan Matthew (dau. of Thomas Matthew). Died 1527 or Abt. 1525 at Wales.
Knight of the Garter.
Is wife option A & B the same woman?.
Acceded Dynevor 1506 (I'm not sure what this note means.)
At least one Child (with Eva/Eva): Griffith/Gruffydd
See also Rhys ap Thomas FitzUryan, KG.
My 14th & 15th Great Grandfather (4x over), Griffith/Gruffydd ap Rhys FitzUryan.
Born Abt. 1475 at Wales. Married Abt. 1498 at Wales to Katherine St. John (she was b. Abt. 1477/1482 at Wales, dau. of Sir John St. John of Bedfords. & Sybil verch Morgan). Died 1521/2.
Knight of the Bath.
Acceded (to what?) 14 Nov. 1501.
See also Gruffydd ap Rhys FitzUryan, KB.
My 13th & 14th Great Grandfather (4x over), Rhys ap Griffith/Gruffydd FitzUryan (Fitz Vryon)
Born 1500 at London, Middlesex County, England. Married Katherine Howard (she was b. Abt. 1500 at London, Middlesex County, England. Died 1554 at London, Middlesex County, England, dau. of Thomas Howard, Duke of Norfolk & Elizabeth, heiress Tilney). Beheaded in 1531.
One or Two Children, possibly the same individual just with a different translation of the first name (does Gruffyd=William?):
  • Gruffyd ap Rice aka Gruffyd ap Rhys, m. Eleanor Jones (and had one daughter- Mary verch Gruffudd)
  • William Rhys

Also see Rhys ap Gruffydd FitzUryan.
My 12th & 13th Great Grandfather (4x over), William Rhys
Born Abt. 1522 at Boeman, Bucks, England.
??? My 11th & 12th Great Grandfather (4x over), Thomas Royce ???
Born abt. 1569 at Boeman, Bucks, England. Died Abt. 1600 at Martock, Somersetshire, England

My 10th & 11th Great Grandfather (4x over), Robert Royce
See the Royce page for much more about him.
Married to Mary Simms/Sims.

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