WHOSE FAULT IS IT IF PEOPLE LIKE YOUR BAND? WELL, IT'S YOURS IF YOU INSIST ON WRITING CATCHY SONGS. SO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.... Newtown was once Frenzal Rhomb's town. They were the epitome of what a Newton band would look and sound like; ugly, fast, funny, but not very serious at all. But while they've been out selling thousands and thousands of copies of Not So Tough Now and playing their poppy chops in front of thousands of kids in Australia and Japan, Newton has changed. Gentrification is very much the flavour of the month and so, it would seem, it is earnestness. And while their town has changed, Frenzal Rhomb haven't. It is almost impossible to keep them collectively on the same train though for more than a few sentences. But that's cool, they don't take things seriously, so why should you? Right? Right. Sitting in a Newton cafe, or hardworld as they've re-christened it, I suggest that there's a kind of a family theme going on with this new record, Meet The Family. The first single is called There's Your Dad.... "Yeah, I don't know how that came about really. There's 3 songs that fit that theme," says vocalist Jay, " the first single is a really unfunny band joke that we seem to be the only people who find funny. It never fails to get a chuckle from someone in the band but everyone else we've told it to go, "Uh, yeah." "The first song on the record is called Oh My God, Mum's Changed The Locks," says Lindsay, continuing however briefly with the same thought, "but we were gonna call it the album Oh My God, I just Ate Shit," he adds, destroying any sense of cohesion. "When we were recording we were looking through this really crap sound magazine, with all the latest technology and there was this picture of these guitar legends...", continues Jay.... "Steve Lukather was one of them," chimes in band manager Chris. "Toto!" hoots Lindsay. "Yeah, anyway..." perseveres Jay. "I believe you were drawing penises on them and sticking pens through their eyes?" asks Chris. "Yes, they were all standing there with their guitars and we did really, really humorous things like that..." "They looked really good," adds Chris. "And the caption on the page was Meet The Family", and we figured,'Well, we're not gonna come up with anything better than that without a swear word in it," says Jay and he is probably right. Swearing, it would seem, is second nature to the band." "One of the first album titles we came up with," continues Lindsay (or Dr Lindemans as he is known) on a theme that he obviously finds very mirthful indeed, "was Oh My God, I Just Ate Shit." "We had a picture of Lindsay picked out for the front going..." says Jay, pulling a rude head. Well, good move because people could've confused you with Sdistik Exekution, but I disgress. To record and engineer Meet The Family, Frenzal Rhomb employed the services of Donnell Cameron, a man whose name would be familiar to fans of early Bad Religion and other Epitah releases. So, I ask, tell us about him. What advice did he have for Frenzal Rhomb, particularly for Lex- who has now joined us at the table- as Lex has worked in a studio for a number of years? "'Double-up Donnell Cameron'," says Jay. "'Deal Me In Donnell', says the Doc. "Donnell's a gambler." "Or 'Me and The Doc Are Going To Vegas Donnell'," laughs Jay. "Donnell's a cool cat, the coolest of all felines," says Lindsay. "He'd heard of the band before he got here," says Jay a little sheepishly. "I think we'd sent him a couple of things that he liked, but we were really wary of ending up sounding like another Californian punk band if we used him to produce the record." But as far as his efforts in making the record sound as it does, that's best left to Lex. Although Lindsay needs to speak first. "In fact, he had every idea and every suggestion. It took 4 days just to get my amp to sound right." "Separation, I think was the best advice . I know," Lex stresses. "I know you're supposed to do it. Normally you are supposed to separate all the sounds so that you can hear them on the record, but he's just got the skills to do that I didn't have." Well, you can hear that on the record can't you? "You can actually hear what's going on. What all the instruments are doing. I reckon when you listen to it you can hear everything," agrees Jay. It also sounds for some reason to be typically Australian, I offer in an attempt to continue down this relatively sensible path. But drummer Nat has now joined us and he demands to know why cafes don't offer any other soup other than pumpkin. Very loudly he demands to know this, very loudly and in the direction of my tape recorder. Thankfully, Jay steers his ship of fools back on course. "Yeah, we do sound Australian, even though we don't try to. But using words like 'Cockhead' will always make you sound Australian." "There's alot of bands who don't sound Australian," offers Lindsay, can of worms at the ready and looking around for an opener. "Yes, true enough, but let's not name fingers or point names..." "Wankshaft is a good one," reckons Nat, getting back to the topic of Australiana. "Fucknuckle too! Rough sack even," laughs Jay. "Youse go sick, eh! If that's not Australian I don't know what is," adds Nat with a tone of finality. Aside from the family theme we talked of and the theme of fluent, uptempo, easy to digest tunes contained on Meet The Family, there is a of a hell of alot of swearing, as we mentioned earlier too. Is swearing tough, I ask, or is it a want of better education? "Get fucked, ya cunt," says Lindsay. "I happen to be University educated myself," says Jay proudly, although like many good Newton residen'ts he only completed 2 years of his BA degree at Sydney Uni. "I think probably- and I've said this in interviews before- we just try and say things how we'd say it, if that makes sense . We don't try to embelish the things we say to make them seem like something that they're not. It's a littlt pretentious, I reckon, to start using too many metaphors when it's just as easy to say, ' Well, as a matter of fact, you're a fuckhead! It could be put a lot more eloquently , but you still get the point across." Do you see that as a reason for some of the antagonism between yourselves and some of the other bands around the place? That you don't see the need to prove yourselves to be intelligent.... "Or hard," offers Jay. And in fact you are quite happy to wallow in this self- imposed idiocy. "Do you say mediocity?" challenges Nat. "Talent imposed mediocrity, more like," says the Doctor. "I like to think of it more as a tall poppy syndrome, for I am indeed a tall poppy," believes Jay. "We played a show at Gosford on the weekendand these kids were complaining to me that they thought it was bad Frenzal were selling out shows and that people wanted to come and see the band. I was like,"Surely anyone who wants to see the band should be allowed to? Don't you guys like the band? What separates you from other people who like the band?'." Jay tells me later that someone did call a bomb threat in on the venue that they played. "Someone who couldn't get in," he laughs. "I think our general plan of only doing demos and giving them away at rallies went quite soothly..." he continues. "Yeah, we had quite a big impact on the rally scene," laughs Lex. "Rally! I don't mind car racing," says Nat. "That Sega-Rally[TM] is pretty good, too," says the Doctor and thankfully our lunch arrives.